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Jesus was Transgender

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MalagaNights · 22/01/2022 22:13

twitter.com/WokePreacherTV/status/1484202496147046403?t=boTq0jRTFFJ7sv6UJ1qQuA&s=19

Just sharing this nonsense from an Anglican cleric.

Man doing 'women's jobs' is transgender.

Must go and tell my DH who's now doing the washing up.

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RoyalCorgi · 25/01/2022 08:40

I've shared this before, but worth a repeat:

www.jesusandmo.net/comic/bio/

ButtonSister · 25/01/2022 08:33

@ArabellaScott

Meatloaf? I suppose 'bat' is a gendered insult. Never occurred to me before.
An article was posted on Twitter explaining why the writer believed ML to be queer/trans etc. It seemed to hinge on ML being overweight and not handsome and therefore his decision to wear flamboyant stage clothes went beyond wanting to wear flamboyant clothes on stage and towards transness. Confused
ArabellaScott · 24/01/2022 16:14

Meatloaf? I suppose 'bat' is a gendered insult. Never occurred to me before.

ButtonSister · 24/01/2022 13:25

Jesus and MeatLoaf? Whoever next?

ButtonSister · 24/01/2022 13:24

@YetAnotherSpartacus

Not to mention using every single fucking pot, pan and utensil in Judea

... and then expect to be worshipped forevermore ... oh, wait ...

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beastlyslumber · 24/01/2022 13:21

It is very difficult & unfortunate (to say the least) that some denominations utterly reject the very concept of being transgender. People of faith who are trans should not feel they have to choose one over the other

How do you reconcile your faith in God with the idea that "God made a mistake"?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/01/2022 10:51

Not to mention using every single fucking pot, pan and utensil in Judea

... and then expect to be worshipped forevermore ... oh, wait ...

LilithOfEden · 24/01/2022 10:41

And single handedly prepared food for and fed 5000 people. No man could have managed that without a lot of heavy sighing.

Not to mention using every single fucking pot, pan and utensil in Judea.

ArabellaScott · 24/01/2022 09:34

Some people see woman = servant, I suppose, Babdoc. Being a Christian doesn't make one immune to sexism, unfortunately.

Babdoc · 24/01/2022 08:57

I’m surprised that a minister should be so ignorant of his own religion.
The whole point of Jesus washing his disciples’ feet was to teach them humility, not act out some cross gender nonsense.
They had been arguing amongst themselves as to who was the most important disciple, and appealed to Jesus to settle the argument.
Characteristically, He told them that he who is first shall be last. And acted as a servant to them, not a woman.

FrancescaContini · 24/01/2022 07:05

@ScrollingLeaves

Thank you, OP This and other people’s comments have made me smile on this damp, cold, January Sunday.
Yes, me too. Thanks, everyone!
NotBadConsidering · 24/01/2022 06:46

@ArabellaScott

Wafers, surely?
Wouldn’t Jesus eating wafers and drinking red wine be some form of cannibalism? I’m a bit hazy on the old transubstantiation thing…
CheeseMmmm · 24/01/2022 04:58

I don't know this bloke or his beliefs/ branch Christian etc.

It's hardly a surprise though?

Abrahamic religions on the more fundamental side are vvv much into strict sex roles. Really strict.

Man doing something this man at least sees as demeaning/ submissive/ servile, is as woman. Those things are for women.

No big surprise.

IF pro gender identity etc. Then example Iran.

Better for a man who is feminine in some way way according to their views. Gay, too interested in clothes accessories etc esp if aimed at women.

Then better he is woman. Then problem gone.

ArabellaScott · 23/01/2022 23:19

Wafers, surely?

Cherryana · 23/01/2022 22:58

I think Jesus would prefer cheesus and biscuits with a nice red wine.

Signalbox · 23/01/2022 17:44

Jesus was bi and non-binary…

www.tiktok.com/@emmalinecs/video/6966905230722075906?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

ScrollingLeaves · 23/01/2022 15:34

Thank you, OP
This and other people’s comments have made me smile on this damp, cold, January Sunday.

viques · 23/01/2022 14:32

@YetAnotherSpartacus

If Jesus was an MNer, what would zhe post?

Something about feeding the masses with the MN chicken and a huge salad? Possibly followed by lemon drizzle cake.

Wonder what his favourite biscuit is?

You forgot the crusty bread. No MN feast for more than six people is complete without crusty bread.

I think Jesus would have enjoyed supermarket own brand ginger biscuits, humble and modest.

Precipice · 23/01/2022 14:17

This is clearly wrong. Jesus was not transgender, he was transdeity. He identified as the son of God, but those bigoted Romans refused to accept him for who he was inside, and that, friends, is how transphobia kills.

Tragically, this type of trans identity has not yet been included under Stonewall's trans umbrella, but we expect it to happen any day now.

TerraNovaTwo · 23/01/2022 12:59

OMFG If TRAs are really looking to achieve 'equal' rights in society, whatever they perceive those to be, this really isn't helping their cause. It is stereotyping both trans people and women Hmm

It reads the same as the old line 'men who look after their bodies and are in touch with their emotions must be gay'.

Using this cleric's strange logic, male nurses, teachers, SAHDs and so on are also transgender?

Artichokeleaves · 23/01/2022 12:32

It's amazing how much the New Testament is not full of discussion over the issues of pronouns and identity and who gets to go to the wells with the women, or use the red tent. It's kind of busy with a lot of other things, such as being a small group of rebels in an occupied country, and being a rabbi going rogue from the central religion. Lots of political belief being taught, but not much of it taken up with micro aggression, literal violence (too much real violence going on for a start), and transition. Quite apart from which, Jesus refers to himself multiply as man, son, etc so do the disciples who as his closest mates I would rely on to know preferred pronouns and chosen identity. So I'm fairly confident I have not misgendered.

Unless anyone's got a time machine, and can pop back and explain genderism to him in detail, through the 21st century lens, and expect someone in the 1st century to think these beliefs trump all their beliefs and problems, and will be relevant in the first century, and see what he says (he'll certainly be very kind about it), I think we probably have to accept that this is a bit of a crowbarred, three am thought.

MalagaNights · 23/01/2022 12:26

Apologies for assuming he was Anglican in my OP!

Tbh I didn't look very carefully at it, just thought: this is the sort of utter nonsense MN might like to see!

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 23/01/2022 12:20

If Jesus was an MNer, what would zhe post?

Something about feeding the masses with the MN chicken and a huge salad? Possibly followed by lemon drizzle cake.

Wonder what his favourite biscuit is?

NitroNine · 23/01/2022 12:03

In 2016 Pope Francis changed The Rules & things got less-literal with the disciple-repping (ie women got the Papal Pseudo-Pedicure) so according to The Other Rules he is Cracking [Easter] Eggs while Living His Best Life. Some stunning embroidered outfits with accessorising taken to the length of, er, the entire Catholic clergy & all Catholic places of worship. Style ICON that one.

viques · 23/01/2022 12:03

@ArabellaScott

Of course he was, he had long hair and wore a dress.
And single handedly prepared food for and fed 5000 people. No man could have managed that without a lot of heavy sighing.