Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..

Shall we just dump all the prominent trans people’s misogynistic statements here?

I mean certainly not all prominent trans people have such hateful beliefs, but only a fool would not be fully cognisant of some of these people hating females.

Shall we do it? It would fill the thread though and be utterly pointless.

It never fails to amuse me when posters come on here saying that the view that…er… women are adult human females is “fringe” and “marginal”, but the postmodern queer theory that woman is a gender identity that has no content other than a propensity to self identity as a woman is, in fact, the mainstream, popular and historic view of what a woman is. It’s hilarious. Even flat earthers don’t say their views are mainstream… they know they are niche!

1. Why are you bothering to post here then? There are many different schools of thought out there, with website fora that have grown up to discuss them. I think various forms of anarchist theory are bullshit, but I don't bother posting on their forums to say so because I think they're irrelevant.

2. you must surely know we have noted the people advocating for your mindset. Sometimes it seems that as soon as a man expresses support for mixed-sex toilets, it turns out he has vile imagery of children being sexually abused on the laptop.

Walsh is a misogynist?

TRAs are NOTHING but misogynist. They fucking HATE women. They don't give a shit about women's rights and protections. They are the biggest women bashers and women haters there are - as are many TWs.
They hate women and yet covet womanhood.

More that so few people agree that the gender critical movement is reduced to cheering on misogynist grifters like Walsh to get the message out.

I don't think that anyone on this thread is under any illusions that Matt Walsh is getting the 'gender critical' message out. Matt Walsh is getting Matt Walsh's message out.

The fact you continue to push this as an alliance instead of what it is, a briefly adjacent view, is YOUR agenda.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I might continue to point out crossed the line in monstering women who disagree with you last night. It is you who continues with that agenda as well. Your dramatic hyperbole is aimed at demonising women who disagree with you.

It seems again that this is another projection. Who is scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for leverage to shut women up?

• thinking gender ideology is nonsense

Desperate, Desperate stuff, Bb. You wouldn't be shitting yourself and trying to shut us up if you really believed that.

And believing in biological differences between men and women and thinking gender ideology isn't confined to "the GC movement", as proven by this very thread yourr posting in

More that so few people agree that the gender critical movement is reduced to cheering on misogynist grifters like Walsh to get the message out.

Bless. That's what comes of living in an echo chamber. You don't know what's going on in the real world. Much to labours shock when Brexit came about. But if you think that's all the GC movement do then you carry on and believe that. It's probably more helpful that you do.

So on one hand we are so powerful and large enough in numbers, we can influence the likes of Matt Walsh and on the other hand, WE are supposedly the monsters and and a very small group

More that so few people agree that the gender critical movement is reduced to cheering on misogynist grifters like Walsh to get the message out.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Quite. And none of them are dressing it up to be kind or polite.

It's not even seen as gaslighting anymore. People are just saying nah, it's complete bullshit.

People (myself included) mostly women really tried to "be kind" about this at the start to save feelings and not sound "mean" but that doesn't work, facts and straight talking is the only way

It's not even seen as gaslighting anymore. People are just saying nah, it's complete bullshit.

808k views, 19k comments the majority agreeing with Walsh.

One of the comments really hit the nail on the head and reminded me of that poster I quoted. There's too many comments there now to find it but it was commenting on the way the guests (other than MW) were speaking , like what they were saying was accepted facts and Matt was some guy that was talking complete nonsense. They said it's complete Propaganda to give the world the impression through main stream media that everyone already agrees with this line of thinking so you feel like no one will agree with you if you speak up. It's so clear to see what the majority of the general public really think though when you read through those comments...........thankfully.

I don’t think that Iran and China are necessarily endorsing a model of “trans rights”, though. To my eye, they are expressing a deep homophobia and misogyny, in castrating gay men for not being “manly enough”, because any perceived femininity in men is not to be tolerated.

This seems to be similar to the reason why some parents decide their young children are 'trans'. "It's better to have a straight daughter than a gay son."

Thank goodness the gender critical movement has remained so tiny and seems to be slowly petering out because there are some monstrous attitudes within it and thankfully more and more people are waking up to that.

Whatever you do don't read the comments section of the Dr Phil video, you're in for a shock if you do ..................

I don’t think that Iran and China are necessarily endorsing a model of “trans rights”, though. To my eye, they are expressing a deep homophobia and misogyny, in castrating gay men for not being “manly enough”, because any perceived femininity in men is not to be tolerated.

I don’t think there is any interest in trans rights per se.

It's simply not true that authoritarian movements are all deeply hostile to trans rights. The Iranian theocracy systematically convert effeminate males via trans surgery - so they have no 'gay problem'.

China has state transition facilities for the same reasons.

But even if it were true, it would be an irrelevant point. That this should even need to be said is a depressing indictment of just how infantile political discourse has become. Those of us who opposed the Iraq war were obviously not tainted by the fact that oppressive regimes and the far right also opposed it.

Gender ideology is a creeping fungus that need disinfectant and sunlight.
I don't care right now if the man throwing the disinfectant happens to have some other ideas and beliefs I don't align with.

It's another voice in the madness and its more sunlight to a big audience.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day, as they say. He might have some beliefs that you don't align with but it doesn't stop him being correct in this, and his voice is adding to our own.

At this point I wouldn't care if it was Kim Jong Un who was appearing on Dr Phil. I would be applauding the supreme leader for the added sunlight.

It is @Helleofabore, blinding hypocrisy. And I shouldn't be surprised by it by now.

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Barley knows this is happening and seems to support it.

Their post indicates this.

Their post is to tell women there are people facing much worse in life, so we should STFU.

Can you imagine if women reflected that back at another small group?

As you say irony. I say, the hypocrisy is blinding.

"... facing a quiet chat with the police to check your thinking." Seriously wtf! We're already here @barleybadminton. In the midst of an ideological regime. That you are promoting. Do you really not see the irony of your posts?

Can I come back yet, or is Cheese still soliloquising?

Just let what happened to let happen

Sorry.

Just let what happened go.