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Matt Walsh asks trans activist 'what is a woman'..

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sacredfeminina · 20/01/2022 23:30

Stumbled accross this on twitter. Matt Walsh, an American political commentator is on a chat show and confronts transactivist to define a woman and tells him that he is appropriating womanhood.

Then after being told that he has 'traumatised' the activists... He provides this response!!

Wow. He says sh*t straight.... Haha!

Talkshow:

Response:
twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1484268313815441418?s=20

OP posts:
NotBadConsidering · 22/01/2022 04:44

So you looked up Matt Walsh on Wikipedia but you can’t extend the same to Dr Phil? You don’t know who he is? Have you lived under a rock for the last 20 years?

Either way it was bland, zero new. Seen much more 'lively' discussion on this here

Are discussions here viewed by 6 million people across America?

IndigoToo · 22/01/2022 04:42

@CheeseMmmm…
A quick google would have revealed that Dr Phil hosts an American day time talk show. It “hit 150 weeks as the top-rated syndicated daytime talk show, with an average daily audience of 2.9 million viewers”.

It is sunlight, and floodlights to the silence around reporting/exposure of incidences such as occurred in Loudoun County.

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 04:40

I need to look at this guy in depth to understand that he's somehow... Ok?

Show titles and précis on site hosting them can't remember exact wording and ok I'm not USA so maybe missing big cultural nuances etc.

I thought stuff like-

  • Carl Rittenhouse is hero (I know who he is)
-BLM load of shit
  • Canada effectively bans Christianity. Marriage = as per God man woman the end

Few more different issues stance of this chap in neon tbh.

Feels like I'm taking to his fan club or something!

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 04:38

twitter.com/mattwalshblog/status/1483925582274564097?s=21

This clip Cheese. This is where the rape in the bathrooms is discussed

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 04:36

So you haven’t watched it? You won’t watch it because you looked the guy up on Wikipedia first and you don’t like him?

So a poster has, for pages, vehemently objected to something she hasn’t actually watched.

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 04:34

@nolongersurprised

Be careful what you wish for

So, Cheese to get this straight, you DON’T think it’s good that happened in Loudoun County is being given a wider audience?

And the reason you don’t approve is because it’s being disseminated by the wrong person?

Better therefore if he hadn’t gone on Dr Phil in the first place?

I don't know who Dr Phil is.

I watched it and Dr Phil written on screen. Assume Dr Phil asking questions? Or Walsh?

Either way it was bland, zero new. Seen much more 'lively' discussion on this here.

He fucked up at start the questioner.

As soon as person said I don't know what a woman is. That's when to get in. Keep in control.

As soon as gave answer what... I think female was question. Immediately open to all the usual rubbish (some of which he got) which tends to confuse listeners and whole thing waste of time.

It was crap in short. And for UK person addition question who are they anyway.

V confusing.

NotBadConsidering · 22/01/2022 04:25

@CheeseMmmm

Notbad,

Stacks and stacks of people have and are asking that question and getting bizarre/ nonsensical/ insulting etc answers.

Why so excited about this chap?

I mean UK site how many even heard of him?
Why would anyone say yeah this bloke vv worth a listen when there are reams and reams of articles, mainstream tv interviews, ludicrous things said by politicians, JKR, and on and on.

Why push this so hard, in short?

And if you think a dyed in wool lefty in England/Wales, is going to think oho one changed my mind! If watch this.

That's vv not how humans work.

They would say who is he?
Why something so random, nothing in UK about it?
How come across it?
What his thing what he do?
He's generally a man to listen to? What else is he good on?

Etc etc.

So you haven’t watched it? You won’t watch it because you looked the guy up on Wikipedia first and you don’t like him? How pathetic.

Why so excited about this chap?

I’m not excited about “this chap”Hmm. I am pleased to hear “this chap” point out the nonsense and raise awareness of the Loudoun County events on a TV show with a huge audience. Why can’t you see that just because I do that it doesn’t mean anything else remotely? It doesn’t mean I condone him on anything else, or support him on anything else or being led like a little sheep into some far right wing abyss.

Do you or do you not think it’s a good thing that Matt Walsh brought the horrible events in Loudoun County to wider prominence on a TV show with a huge audience? (Tip: this is what he does in the clips; given you’re not prepared to watch them you will have to believe me, but he does).

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 04:24

Why so excited about this chap?

Because he is an effective speaker and had a large audience and stepped out of his bubble to do so. More people have been made aware of the dangers of trans ideology through him.
This is good.

I don’t see many from the left clamouring to do the same, do you?

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 04:20

Take weird thread.

Why is man SO important to you? Tying people who say TWAW up in knots happens plenty.

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 04:17

Better surely for people to listen to women on the impact on women and girls...

Well, given there’s a Dr Phil theme, “How’s that working out for us?*

So - better that the Dr Phil viewers didn’t learn about Loudoun County then?

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 04:16

Notbad,

Stacks and stacks of people have and are asking that question and getting bizarre/ nonsensical/ insulting etc answers.

Why so excited about this chap?

I mean UK site how many even heard of him?
Why would anyone say yeah this bloke vv worth a listen when there are reams and reams of articles, mainstream tv interviews, ludicrous things said by politicians, JKR, and on and on.

Why push this so hard, in short?

And if you think a dyed in wool lefty in England/Wales, is going to think oho one changed my mind! If watch this.

That's vv not how humans work.

They would say who is he?
Why something so random, nothing in UK about it?
How come across it?
What his thing what he do?
He's generally a man to listen to? What else is he good on?

Etc etc.

NotBadConsidering · 22/01/2022 04:14

Why listen to him? Better surely for people to listen to women on the impact on women and girls

Because in this particular instance, on this particular TV show, in this particular discussion, it was him who was saying it. Why not listen to him? Have you actually listened to him?

What part of what he said in the clip do you disagree with? Do you think he is right, in the clip to challenge the nonsense around the definition of woman or not?

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 04:12

It’s a bit sad as well that many on this thread - me included - are emphasising that although Matt Walsh did a good and effective job in Dr Phil, there are views he has that we don’t share.

It’s sad because although we feel the need to emphasise that we are still largely left wing there’s a massive paucity of left wing men on our side.

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 04:09

'I’m not wishing his “type” of people get anything all I am wishing is that people listen to what he said on this single issue.'

Why listen to him?

Better surely for people to listen to women on the impact on women and girls...

Women who care about this for it's own sake. Not because it's an issue that men are fighting over to see which group of men get to be in charge.

NotBadConsidering · 22/01/2022 03:58

@CheeseMmmm

'Is Matt Walsh right on the nonsense about the definition of woman or not?'

What is his actual real life, personal view of what women are. Of course female. He believes as per obvious. Man + woman + marriage = that's that.

What his thoughts on women other than that. What place in society, how should behave etc. Not quite so fun.

So his views prevail.

Good news?

You clearly haven’t watched the clip. I’m not asking if Walsh knows what a woman is based on his conservative views and whether that is right, I’m asking if he is right on his exposure of the fact TRAs can’t define it and their answer is nonsense in the clip. He discusses nothing about his views on women or their place in society. Do you think he is right about that or not?

Are you commenting on the views of this man without even having watched it?

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 03:44

Be careful what you wish for

So, Cheese to get this straight, you DON’T think it’s good that happened in Loudoun County is being given a wider audience?

And the reason you don’t approve is because it’s being disseminated by the wrong person?

Better therefore if he hadn’t gone on Dr Phil in the first place?

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 03:43

'It’s not silly, it’s hope that the Left react to what’s right under their noses.'

This blokes output is not going to be anywhere near their line of vision! Let alone under their noses.

This is a male 'rights' movement.

Men arguing about what women are is same old shit.

It's women who have skin in the game. And the fact is 99.999 % of world population know exactly what women and girls are.

That's what needs to be mobilised.

Politics right left whatever. By men for men.

Left right on this is men fighting about who gets to tell women what they are.

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 03:37

'Is Matt Walsh right on the nonsense about the definition of woman or not?'

What is his actual real life, personal view of what women are. Of course female. He believes as per obvious. Man + woman + marriage = that's that.

What his thoughts on women other than that. What place in society, how should behave etc. Not quite so fun.

So his views prevail.

Good news?

NotBadConsidering · 22/01/2022 03:31

Be careful what you wish for.

But there you go again. I’m not wishing for anything. I’m not wishing all of Matt Walsh’s ideas get the same traction, I’m not wishing his ideology on other matters become law, I’m not wishing his “type” of people get anything all I am wishing is that people listen to what he said on this single issue.

It’s not silly, it’s hope that the Left react to what’s right under their noses.

And I’ll ask you again:

Is Matt Walsh right on the nonsense about the definition of woman or not?

Is Matt Walsh right to bring attention to the rape of two girls in Loudoun County or not?

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 03:28

Keeping women’s and girls’ toilets, sports and changing spaces free of males is a vote winner for the left as well, they are either too stupid to realise or lack the courage.

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 03:25

'And maybe the likes of Walsh will be useful for us. Maybe his actions and the loss of votes from left wing parties will make those left wing parties realise that the belief in science and women’s rights isn’t in fact a “right wing” idea hmm and they’re failing their traditional supporters.'

Don't be silly!

And it's bad enough with our right, for die hard lefties. How utterly unpalatable they are. Compared to USA right, our right are bleeding heart v hard left!

How many will suffer if govt gets in USA with views like his?

How many women and girls? Plus all the other types of people they have it in for.

Be careful what you wish for.

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 03:25

Unless those posts do feel that way in general obv

Not at all, but exposes the consequences of a harmful ideology to a wider audience. I have daughters, I don’t want them having to change for sport, swimming next to boys. If they were raped and the school covered it up and continued to promote letting boys into their spaces I would be livid.

I do think he’s got a good beard though
Grin

CheeseMmmm · 22/01/2022 03:20

My approach is. Obv people can say believe what they like. Within law etc.

If someone is fundamentally committed to a load of things you know result in appalling harm, damage, cruelty to people. And is happening now, every day, around the world.

Then well. Religious fundamentalist not keen on trans people shocker.

No comment surely. Same as if JRM or Farage etc said women female etc.

It's the yay yay what a guy stuff that I'm referring to with my comments.

Unless those posts do feel that way in general obv.

NotBadConsidering · 22/01/2022 03:18

Given the silence from the left wing media about the events in Loudoun County, it’s highly likely that there will have been viewers of Dr Phil who hadn’t even heard about it. If his discussion on it brought sunlight to those people that’s good.

The question always seems to be “why are right wing commentators always the ones bringing it to prominence? What’s in it for them?” Followed by a purity spiral around why we should or shouldn’t agree with them.

Why is the question never “why are left wing commentators ignoring this and failing to bring this - as an example, the rape of two girls - to prominence? What’s in it for them?”

If enough left wing commentators could be bothered then we wouldn’t be reliant on the likes of Walsh.

And maybe the likes of Walsh will be useful for us. Maybe his actions and the loss of votes from left wing parties will make those left wing parties realise that the belief in science and women’s rights isn’t in fact a “right wing” idea Hmm and they’re failing their traditional supporters.

I will not blindly follow the political line on this because to do so would mean abandoning truth.

And CheeseMmmm you haven’t answered:

Is Matt Walsh right on the nonsense about the definition of woman or not?

Is Matt Walsh right to bring attention to the rape of two girls in Loudoun County or not?

nolongersurprised · 22/01/2022 03:01

Preaching to converted, in short

That’s the whole point though. He went on Dr Phil, which isn’t conservative, ddint have the support of the audience and exposed the idiocy of the trans ideology.

He went out of his own conservative bubble.