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Girl Guide Safeguarding - how to make a complaint

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AgeOfReason99 · 20/01/2022 03:43

So Girl Guiding has been referring complainants about their safeguarding policies to the police apparently.
twitter.com/MDayCassandra/status/1483731590232657922

Let's give them more than they can deal with. Here is their email address for safeguarding concerns:
[email protected]
Bring on the police!

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Helleofabore · 20/01/2022 12:51

@BlueberryCheezecake

Girl Guiding have not been referring complaints about their safeguarding policy to the police. They may have referred one letter to the police, likely on the grounds it contained threatening or otherwise seriously concerning content. There is no proof apart from a second hand anecdote concerning an unnamed party they even did that, and there's absolutely zero evidence whatsoever they've done any more than that.
You seem very well advised on this incident all round there Blueberry. I asked you on the other thread, but I will ask you again.

Are you acquainted with the GG leader in question? You seem to be claiming that you know who the small girls in their profile header are. And now you are claiming to have knowledge about just who has been referred to the police, how many people and for what.

Either you are making claims to which you actually know nothing.
Or you know this person and know what is going on.
Or maybe this person has been posting on forums and social media that you are also on and you can point us to their posts to reassure us.

Which of the above three statements apply please?

Because otherwise we will simply assume that you are again simply posting to discredit, shame and disparage women discussing a very serious safeguarding matter and the potential ramifications.

ArabellaScott · 20/01/2022 12:49

thread: twitter.com/Jebadoo2/status/1483908266174386180

RoyalCorgi · 20/01/2022 12:48

So far there seem to be three separate instances of this happening.

Nina Killen put out a tweet saying it had happened to a friend of hers.

Cassandra Day (the tweet referred to in the OP) says a friend of hers also had a visit from the police.

Someone called Ann Lorraine, responding to the Cassandra Day tweet, says it happened to a friend of hers.

It's possible that it's the same woman with three friends, of course. But also possible that it's three different people.

KittenKong · 20/01/2022 12:44

Gotta run out now - it’s Dennis kavanagh on twitter (yesterday) @jebadoo2

KittenKong · 20/01/2022 12:41

There’s a thread on twitter giving advice about why to do should you get a call from PC Gul. I’ll dig it out

Leafstamp · 20/01/2022 12:38

@BlueberryCheezecake

Do you think asking that a man, with a penis, who poses with guns wearing women's clothes and posts it on social media to stay out of the way (eg out of the toilets) that young girls use is 'threatening or otherwise seriously concerning content'?

ArabellaScott · 20/01/2022 12:38

They have definitely dismissed two women who raised safeguarding concerns. This shoudl have been covered under 'whistleblowing'.

ArabellaScott · 20/01/2022 12:37

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/safeguarding-policy/

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/whistleblowing-policy/whistleblowing-procedure/

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/managing-concerns-about-adult-volunteers-policy/

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/managing-information-policy/

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/digital-safeguarding-policy/

'our volunteers, members and staff must:

Ensure that social media accounts are set up and used responsibly, by using disclaimers to make it clear that their views, thoughts and opinions are personal and not reflective of Girlguiding policies, procedures and guidance. And  follow all community guidelines and terms and conditions set out by third party social media providers, including age restrictions. For further guidance on digital platforms, including social media, please see our guidance on digital platforms for guiding.'
  • There's tonnes of this type of thing. As you'd expect - GG are a huge organisation with responsibility for thousands of girls.
BlueberryCheezecake · 20/01/2022 12:32

Girl Guiding have not been referring complaints about their safeguarding policy to the police. They may have referred one letter to the police, likely on the grounds it contained threatening or otherwise seriously concerning content. There is no proof apart from a second hand anecdote concerning an unnamed party they even did that, and there's absolutely zero evidence whatsoever they've done any more than that.

ArabellaScott · 20/01/2022 12:29

Thank you, OP.

I'm wondering if we can FOI or call for some kind of enquiry as to what on earth is going on within Girlguiding. Because it seems to me that massive breaches of safeguarding are being encouraged, presumably from fairly high up? This is an organisation with responsibility for many, many girls/children.

averylongtimeago · 20/01/2022 12:26

As well as emailing, you can follow the link from their website.

www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/complaints-policy/complaints-procedure/

This also explains their policies and complaints procedures.

Timefortea4 · 20/01/2022 10:08

This is so chilling. That they would refer valid safeguarding concerns to the police. That the police would act on the report. Just when I think I've seen it all things get worse.

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