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Girl Guide Safeguarding - how to make a complaint

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AgeOfReason99 · 20/01/2022 03:43

So Girl Guiding has been referring complainants about their safeguarding policies to the police apparently.
twitter.com/MDayCassandra/status/1483731590232657922

Let's give them more than they can deal with. Here is their email address for safeguarding concerns:
[email protected]
Bring on the police!

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Galvantula · 08/02/2022 13:18

Every single reply was calling them out on shit safeguarding and failing to be able to define women.

It was clearly too late by the time they restricted the replies, hence delete and run away... 🙄

VelvetChairGirl · 08/02/2022 13:07

I think the best course of action is to pull your kids out of it and let it go bankrupt.

Blessex · 08/02/2022 12:24

Said tweet. They got a lot of Hmm

Girl Guide Safeguarding - how to make a complaint
DdraigGoch · 08/02/2022 11:21

@foxgoosefinch

What was the tweet? It says it’s been deleted now…
Just a generic promotional message which had something about not being limited by stereotypes or something. On its own a quite routine thing to send out. Rather ironic in the context of GGUK's policies though.
Blessex · 08/02/2022 10:50

I love it that @DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter has found mumsnet. We have been keeping it and the classics threads secret for years Dennis Grin

Thanks for your continued support.

foxgoosefinch · 08/02/2022 09:57

What was the tweet? It says it’s been deleted now…

Theeyeballsinthesky · 08/02/2022 07:49

Wow that ratio 😆😆😆 do they never ever stop to wonder…..????

Girl Guide Safeguarding - how to make a complaint
DdraigGoch · 08/02/2022 07:39

They've restricted replies now.

Cismyfatarse · 08/02/2022 07:20

Not sure if this is the best place but the ratio on this tweet is a glorious thing.

twitter.com/girlguiding/status/1490612047582834688?s=21

TheFnozwhowasmirage · 04/02/2022 19:31

Great to see you here DennisNoelKavanaghOff Twitter . I always appreciate your succinct tweets.

BoreOfWhabylon · 04/02/2022 16:21

@DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter
Welcome Dennis! I see you are finding your way around Grin

highame · 04/02/2022 14:38

I will be really interested to see what happens when the EHRC publishes guidance on single sex spaces and other important clarifications. If the EHRC gives the kind of clarity I am hoping for (whether it will impact the GG's or not I don't know), I wonder how GG's they will move back from their current stance.

Goatsaregreat · 04/02/2022 13:35

Good to see you here DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter
Your twitter threads are a haven of sanity and facts in these upside down times.

DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter · 04/02/2022 13:26

Hello everyone, Dennis Noel Kavanagh here - just to say in response to an earlier poster absolutely fine for anyone to post my twitter legal threads here - they are intended for public circulation so please never think you need permission or anything like that, perfectly fine by me to share them.

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bishophaha · 20/01/2022 23:09

@EeeICouldRipATissue

pick a side I'm on the side of not potentially getting sucked into scaremongering and mass panic because a friend of a friend or a friend of a friend 's next door neighbour said so on the internet. It' s all speculation and second or third hand accounts. The person claiming it, yes if concerned should send an email. People just going by what they're fed though and no proof it's even happening at all and just blindly believe, that's what I am referring to.
eeel it looks quite unlikely that you have actually grasped what the complaints, described in the OP, are complaining about.

Why don't you, eeel, set out clearly what you think the complaints described in the OP (and referred to in your posts) are about, so we can make sure we're all discussing the same thing and nobody has gotten the wrong end of the stick?

TurquoiseBaubles · 20/01/2022 23:06

@EeeICouldRipATissue

it wasn't that bad' or 'she deserved it' or something. Because that's the playbook) I'd never say anything like that.
I suspect you would.

There are already the usual posters on this board saying "you are all so transphobic the email must have been abusive".

eg Blueberry: "They may have referred one letter to the police, likely on the grounds it contained threatening or otherwise seriously concerning content"

So we are back to "it didn't happen, but if it did she deserved it".

RepentMotherfucker · 20/01/2022 23:04

@ArabellaScott

Excellent. I'm glad we've reached a consensus that if GG have reported women to the police, it was wrong and a bad thing.
Oh me too Arabella. And totally confident that no-one will say 'oh they must have reported themselves' or 'this random usually uncontentious word/phrase makes this a hate crime.'

Because that would be really stupid.

Dinosaurwoman · 20/01/2022 23:01

I’d it possible to complain to the police about them not investigating a safeguarding issue. This happened in Blackburn where the police were so anxious not to upset a minority ethnic group of men that they allowed abuse of under age girls to continue and in fact returned them to their abusers and branded the woman trying to stop it all happening a racist. Do you have the police email address?

ArabellaScott · 20/01/2022 22:57

Excellent. I'm glad we've reached a consensus that if GG have reported women to the police, it was wrong and a bad thing.

RepentMotherfucker · 20/01/2022 22:42

Cool. So if it happened it was a really bad thing to happen. We can agree that?

I'd be surprised if the other usual suspect agrees that. One has to maintain room to defend all kinds of shit once one commits to gender identity theory. Because the sacred caste is never wrong.

Alekto · 20/01/2022 22:37

(Spoiler, no they won't, they'll be onto 'it wasn't that bad' or 'she deserved it' or something. Because that's the playbook)

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EeeICouldRipATissue · 20/01/2022 19:03

it wasn't that bad' or 'she deserved it' or something. Because that's the playbook)
I'd never say anything like that.

RepentMotherfucker · 20/01/2022 18:51

@yourhairiswinterfire

I think it's unlikely that she's asking for help and involving the Human Rights Committee and Joanna Cherry just for shits and giggles.

We've all seen how the police jump at the chance to persecute women for ''non-crimes'', so this is, unfortunately, very believable.

Why would Cllr Nina Killen be lying? What would she gain from making up that Merseyside Police passed on a complaint about her friend to Derbyshire Police, who was then interviewed (with a stunned solicitor there with her) and is now waiting on CPS for a decision?

Because the first line is 'that didn't happen'?

If it is found to have happened will the people who are saying it didn't, agree that it was wrong? That's two people on this thread so far -@BlueberryCheezecake and @EeeICouldRipATissue

(Spoiler, no they won't, they'll be onto 'it wasn't that bad' or 'she deserved it' or something. Because that's the playbook)