Tom Harwood saying the quiet part out loud

Hairy women don't pass

Those who try this idea never follow it through to the logical conclusion.

Why (if this is indeed actually happening) have female people, after over a century of butch women of all kinds being very usual in female spaces, begun to be anxious about masculine presenting people in female spaces?

What change has happened that means women now know they have to be wary about males in spaces labelled as single sex, where females have not consented to males being present?

Males started this. So now trying to shame women for getting anxious about it?

We're back to 'stop upsetting me with your silly crying when I'm beating you'

I find it hard to believe he's still doing this after the absolute thrashing he got last time. I can only think that either he's really thick, or he tweets and never looks at his twitter replies. The ratios have been astounding.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4444319-Who-the-hell-is-Tom-Harwood

Tom's examples of what a woman is becomes more and more ridiculous when he opens his mouth.

He also should be starting to get the TRAs on his back because he is all about 'passing' privileges. He is not getting it at all.

I've never quite got the rage before about this - I mean - it's so wrong, that's a given, but seeing these two MEN discussing which MEN it's possibly ok to put behind WOMEN's prison bars has suddenly ignited this viceral "how the fuck dare they think that it's their right to discuss this even" ?

Why is Tom Harwood projecting his own horror of women with armpit hair onto women?

I can assure every single one of you that no woman has ever chased me out of any kind of gym changing room for my hairy armpits. It will never happen.

Tom does not seem to need a chromosome test to decide who is human, who is a special human and who is a kind of animated prop for use by humans. Tom's deciding that on sight.

check someone's chromosomes to see how we interact with that person

Tom means he doesn't care what someone's sex is?

For relationship purposes, Tom?

For medical procedures, Tom?

For catcalling purposes?

Tom thinks it would be odd to 'check someone's chromosomes to see how we interact with that person.'

The idea we need to check chromosomes to correctly identify someone's sex is laughable. Tom's very expensive education was obviously a complete waste. His parents should ask for a refund.

I can tell you Tom's chromosomes without a test. XYTF is he still talking?

Tom thinks it would be odd to 'check someone's chromosomes to see how we interact with that person.'

I think you can generally treat men and women much the same except for a narrow band of activity in which I am 100% sure Tom knows exactly what was recorded on that person's birth certificate without any need at all to check chromosomes.

[quote MiladyBerserko]So he believes that women are the category of people who are catcalled and transwomen experience this, therefore they are women too

mobile.twitter.com/OkBiology/status/1482865347426455561[/quote]
It's all about passing with Tom, alongside stereotypes.

If you are catcalled = women
If you are a women and don't shave your armpits = lesbian

It's all very odd. Tom's world confuses me. What happens to women who reach an age where they are no longer subject to catcalling, are they no longer in Tom's category of women?

Baffled

Anyway, I for one am glad to hear three men discuss how to define a woman while the actual female sits on the couch in silence.

Tom, did you know if you look 'woman' up in the dictionary, there's actually no words there, just this picture? Did you?

[quote MiladyBerserko]So he believes that women are the category of people who are catcalled and transwomen experience this, therefore they are women too

mobile.twitter.com/OkBiology/status/1482865347426455561[/quote]
If a woman walks down the street and there's nobody there to catcall here, is she even a woman at all?

Deep, Tom. Deep.

Is Harwood suggesting that women who don't shave their armpits are not proper women?

These men really are Victorian.

Tom really is the gift that keeps on giving

And that 'lesbians with hairy armpits' have been forced out of women's changing rooms.

because it's so rare and unusual to see hairy armpits in the women's changing rooms. Of course we'd all scream and faint and chase the offender away. I actually have to close my eyes to shave my own armpit hair. It makes for a lot of bleeding, but at least I'm spared the sight of a woman's hairy armpit.

What a loathesome creature Harwood is. He makes his hatred of women so obvious.

Harwood, how many females should be expected to suffer harassment, fear, assault and rape in the name of making life better for this tiny group of males?

Stick a number on it. Twenty? Two hundred? What?

Do they get to volunteer or are you just saying this is the lot of someone born with female biology for the betterment of life for someone with male biology?

And if that's the case, haven't you just proved that these male people are not women, and you don't believe they are women, because you don't give a fuck about what women want or need, and you see their harm as part of their biological birthright .

I will just about contain the names I would dearly love to call you. And point out your position of power and privilege to sit holding forth about what you deign females to be exposed to in your little experiment, and that is biologically based too.

So you are telling a bunch of lies that not even you believe.

Repent, I'm not that clever and that's gone right over my head.

I honestly just meant I think his tie is on too tightly.

From 'Fudging the statistics 101':
Everyone knows that you make something go away by not recording it.