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Girls Day Trust Not Accepting Transgender pupils - vote if you think this is right.

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Freeminds · 15/01/2022 12:27

Hi all, a girls's school in Watford has decided to not allow transgender pupils to apply in order to keep its single sex status. 2 Days ago, the reader vote had approx 89% votes supporting the school's decision but today that's at 43%. Every vote counts if you want to support this school's decision and the poll closes at the end of today: www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19841276.girls-day-school-trust-will-not-accept-transgender-pupils/?fbclid=IwAR31FqnKbleYYH_h5-ryFX0ebDVcep-EFbGgZD0aZdeqMMlMVUsVmdn746g

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KittenKong · 15/01/2022 18:55

@Bluebluemoon39

Omg - I've just voted - I can't believe the "yes" votes are winning.

People are just walking blindly into this.

I'd be absolutely livid if this was my dd's school.

When it first went up the Nos were waaaaay ahead. Funnily enough it flipped quite dramatically quite quickly. Almost as if some jiggery pokery was going on.
AgathaMystery · 15/01/2022 16:00

This is just a readers poll. GDST will not be swayed by stuff like this. If they are then people like me (who pay the fees) will vote with their money.

Alekto · 15/01/2022 15:27

@BootsAndRoots

There is no way that 130,000 people typically read that paper (which is about the number of votes).

I expect that there is a campaign elsewhere to get people to vote the other way.

The question is badly written. I don't think anyone has a problem with trans pupils attending a single-sex school, it's just a matter of which one.

A quick google tells me that the Watford Observer has a circulation of

BlaBlaSmthSmth · 15/01/2022 15:16

TBH I don't get the point of them doing a poll at all if the same person can just refresh and answer multiple times.

BlaBlaSmthSmth · 15/01/2022 15:16

@YankeeDad

interesting also that they use green for "make the school accept boys" and red for "school should accept only females"
That struck me too!
ErrolTheDragon · 15/01/2022 15:13

If it's US activists, they should butt out. I'm pretty sure U.K. law allows single sex schools but that there is no legal basis whatever for a 'single gender' school. (Even if it was, where would that leave 'nonbinaries' and various other 'genders' other than masculine/feminine?)

YankeeDad · 15/01/2022 15:10

interesting also that they use green for "make the school accept boys" and red for "school should accept only females"

KittyLeMew · 15/01/2022 14:50

Voted.

Fuck off TRAs.

BlaBlaSmthSmth · 15/01/2022 14:12

The way they've worded that poll is so ridiculous "Do you think that trans pupils should be able to attend single-sex schools?" ..it completely misrepresents the discussion, the issue is whether trans pupils should be allowed to attend single sex schools of the opposite sex. The answer is obviously "no" if they want to be single sex.

CoastalWave · 15/01/2022 14:10

Anyone who was a boy and now operates (if that's the right word) as a girl - ...that's the gist?

So basically still has a penis.

No. Shouldn't be at an all girls school.

A girl who's born a girl but is dressing up as a boy? I think that's fine.

I don't get why people have a problem with this. The GPDST have been around for years. If you don't agree with it, pick a mixed school for your child.

PoisonCrystal · 15/01/2022 14:09

It seems strange to me that American TRAs are focused on a campaign against this little known girls’ school when there’s a world renowned famous single-sex school that’s less than six miles away in neighbouring Harrow. What’s the difference? 😉

hedgehogger1 · 15/01/2022 14:05

They are a single SEX school. That's all that should need to be said really. It's not possible to change your sex while you can identify as anything you like!

Beamur · 15/01/2022 13:46

Girls school decides not to admit boys.

Helleofabore · 15/01/2022 13:42

The campaign to swing it started last night.

MindatWork · 15/01/2022 13:41

I just refreshed a couple of times and the votes are shooting up - this has definitely been shared on social media somewhere.

V canny by the Watford Observer. Their page hits (which determines how much they can charge advertisers) will have shot up as a result of this. Clickbait at its finest

Datun · 15/01/2022 13:36

People are very much aware that the voting is being skewed by votes from US transactivists.

And yes, the only people who need polling are the parents paying a considerable amount of money to have their daughters educated with other girls.

Which is, presumably, the reason for the statement in the first place.

BootsAndRoots · 15/01/2022 13:30

There is no way that 130,000 people typically read that paper (which is about the number of votes).

I expect that there is a campaign elsewhere to get people to vote the other way.

The question is badly written. I don't think anyone has a problem with trans pupils attending a single-sex school, it's just a matter of which one.

Igmum · 15/01/2022 13:25

Most girls schools have plenty of transgender pupils because teenage girls are identifying as male in rising numbers but, of course, TM never appear on the TRAs agenda. Of course schools should be allowed to be single sex. Well done for great good sense to the schools involved. Hopefully the toxicity of the TRAs won't affect their decision

Storminamu · 15/01/2022 13:22

It does clarify the question in the article.

Cailleach1 · 15/01/2022 13:19

Do you think that trans pupils should be able to attend single-sex schools?

Yes - it should be based on a child's identity rather than their legal sex

No - single-sex schools should only allow people legally born as the sex required

This is a ridiculous survey. Should Trans pupils be allowed to attend single sex schools? Yes, according to their sex and irrespective of identifying as a particular gender identity.

Surely the question is whether pupils with a transgender identity should be allowed to attend a single sex school of the opposite sex.

OhLordyWhatNow · 15/01/2022 13:19

It's a vox pop poll.

In reality it's meaningless

Toseland · 15/01/2022 13:11

That’s an odd survey, you can refresh the page and vote again?!

OhLordyWhatNow · 15/01/2022 13:11

@Cailleach1

The votes are increasing quite rapidly. More than one would expect from a periodical such as the 'Watford Observer'. Or than one would expect to be interested/connected to policies related to this/these girls school.

And yet the percentage hasn't changed.

Cailleach1 · 15/01/2022 13:09

The votes are increasing quite rapidly. More than one would expect from a periodical such as the 'Watford Observer'. Or than one would expect to be interested/connected to policies related to this/these girls school.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 15/01/2022 13:05

Do many children identify as the rhe opposite sex when they are 10, when parents are applying for secondary schools?