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Girls Day Trust Not Accepting Transgender pupils - vote if you think this is right.

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Freeminds · 15/01/2022 12:27

Hi all, a girls's school in Watford has decided to not allow transgender pupils to apply in order to keep its single sex status. 2 Days ago, the reader vote had approx 89% votes supporting the school's decision but today that's at 43%. Every vote counts if you want to support this school's decision and the poll closes at the end of today: www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19841276.girls-day-school-trust-will-not-accept-transgender-pupils/?fbclid=IwAR31FqnKbleYYH_h5-ryFX0ebDVcep-EFbGgZD0aZdeqMMlMVUsVmdn746g

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Datun · 18/01/2022 04:13

Glad to see the comments nailing all the misleading stuff in the article.

And almost everyone pointing out the rank sexism of demands to respect 'people', which doesn't ever appear to include women and girls.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 18/01/2022 00:41

That pathetic bullshit follow up is nothing but emotional blackmail and 'be kind'

Poor mental health and teens with trans identities seem to go hand in hand. They are correct on that one.

Thelnebriati · 18/01/2022 00:11

Bless 'em, they've made a passive aggressive follow up post and are getting their arse handed to them in the comments.

Don't lose sight of real people in trans debate
www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/19850050.dont-lose-sight-real-people-trans-debate/

BraveBananaBadge · 17/01/2022 18:04

This has been in my local paper (although no poll this far) as there's two affected schools in the area. The poor reporting makes it pretty incomprehensible, as it is unclear by 'transgender girls' exactly what they mean in the first instance. It seems they mean girls who identify as boys or NB, then moves to the opposite. Completely different issues.

If it can't adequately be explained just what is going on, and the local paper only backs this up with selective supportive 'be kind' quotes from naive pupils who believe people are whoever they say they are, then the reality is never going to be addressed. It may or may not be deliberate, but it is yet more obfuscation that makes it easier to frame anyone raising concerns as a 't**f'.

OhLordyWhatNow · 16/01/2022 16:44

@Rightsraptor

As a previous poster said, this a newspaper poll and should be ignored (although I admit to having voted). It has nothing to do with the GDST and should do nothing whatsoever to sway the policy. Though no doubt we'll get the usual naive suspects imagining it will.

The GDST have already made their decision and updated their policy to reflect this.

The schools teach female pupils.

Rightsraptor · 16/01/2022 14:35

As a previous poster said, this a newspaper poll and should be ignored (although I admit to having voted). It has nothing to do with the GDST and should do nothing whatsoever to sway the policy. Though no doubt we'll get the usual naive suspects imagining it will.

Artichokeleaves · 16/01/2022 14:18

@OhLordyWhatNow

48% yes, girls don't need or deserve single sex spaces

52% no, girls single sex spaces should not be encroached upon by boys no matter how they identify

And 48% no girl should be permitted a single sex schooling experience, no single sex schooling experience for girls should be permitted to exist even if there are many multiple other options for mixed sex schooling available, because the existence of this is too upsetting for less than 1% of males .

Those males really need to get a grip.

KittyLeMew · 16/01/2022 10:40

YAY!

No no no no no no no!

Whatsnewpussyhat · 16/01/2022 01:25

But I can see why they don’t want young trans women in the schools

Yes. This is where the correct language is vital. Teenage boys should not attend single SEX girls schools. Gender identity ideology changes nothing.

When plain speak is used people understand the point much clearer.

OhLordyWhatNow · 16/01/2022 00:04

48% yes, girls don't need or deserve single sex spaces

52% no, girls single sex spaces should not be encroached upon by boys no matter how they identify

Wauden · 15/01/2022 23:57

48% yes to trans
52% no

unwashedanddazed · 15/01/2022 23:30

You can vote as many times as you want on this poll. Just keep refreshing the page. It's meaningless.

Manderleyagain · 15/01/2022 23:16

The poll is very nearly neck and neck, the sensible side only just ahead.

mariesatonhisknee · 15/01/2022 22:57

And my girls still go to a single sex school - which I’m glad the schools wish to continue this

mariesatonhisknee · 15/01/2022 22:50

And I completely agree with what they are doing , it’s recognised girls do well in a single sex high school. But they are being receptive to those girls who are having a bit of an identity crisis and fair enough if they continue to identify as male. But I can see why they don’t want young trans women in the schools

mariesatonhisknee · 15/01/2022 22:41

My daughters go to one of the GDST schools- we’re one of the academy schools, so we don’t pay and it’s very mixed background now. There’s already at least one transgender child in primary, through my work I’m aware in the senior school there are children identifying as non binary/ transgender

fallfallfall · 15/01/2022 22:33

this kind of "voting" really isn't appropriate as it could easily be taken over by any outside interest "group".
voting should be based on home address and limited.

Alekto · 15/01/2022 22:29

Petitions aren't allowed on FWR, Redlame. There's a specific board for them.

JaninaDuszejko · 15/01/2022 22:23

I don't think many on FWR will want to support that campaign Redlake, it's a campaign to change single sex schools to mixed sex.

BrideofAberdeen · 15/01/2022 22:11

The change.org petition seems to be arguing against single sex schools.

FlyingOink · 15/01/2022 22:09

Change.org petitions are an entire waste of time.

MTCoffeePot · 15/01/2022 22:06

I suspect that there is nothing to stop someone voting more than once by refreshing the page and then voting again. Not a good way to gather information about people's views - too easily gamed.

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FlyingOink · 15/01/2022 21:49

Just wanted to add my incredulity at the now 139,000 votes on a local newspaper poll...

Although the discussion in the comments section is top notch. Watford should be proud.

Whatwouldscullydo · 15/01/2022 19:19

TRAs- aren't their more serious things than a transgirl or 2 at a girls school with other girls, to care about.

Also TRAs- quickly everyone all over the world spam a poll to show that people believe transgirls are girls amd should be in a girls school .

I hope they stick to their guns. Girls schools should remain for actual girls. Boys and other male children have a choice of mixed and single sex. Let girls have theirs

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