Fair Cop Harry: ' police are making threats against Mumsnet. We are on the case.'

It is interesting that the police have time to threaten women who say that transwomen are men but they don't have time to investigate it when men, including trans-identified men, threaten women with rape, murder, doxxing, or burning down their houses. Especially since it is not illegal to say that transwomen are men but it is illegal to threaten someone with bodily harm.

Interesting comment from that 15-year-old article.

Mark Stephens, the website's lawyer, said he feared the possibility that "economic muscle" would be used to "prevent debate".

I missed this thread earlier but what an interesting read.

Just amazed that cheesecake wasn’t able to find all this rampant transphobia! So surprised!

Of course it’s probably because…

• It’s not what you said, it’s how you said it
• I know what you said, but I know what you really meant
• it’s not any one thing it’s everything together

Imagine having such a tragic life that you spent your limited time being alive on this earth scouring the Internet for people who disagree with you and snitching on them. Cringe.

[quote OldCrone]For anyone who missed it at the time, mimmymum is Helen Islan, a former employee of Mermaids, who took Miranda Yardley (a transsexual) to court over alleged transphobic harassment (and lost). Islan is not trans.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3521122-Miranda-in-court[/quote]
Thank you - I have spend an interesting time this evening looking at some of her(?) posts on Twitter. Wow that level of hatred and ignorance combined is quite stunning.

That's interesting, @Awkwardy. I really thought they would.

In related news, the College of Policing are not appealing.

It is DOCUMENTED on Twitter that TRAs make ACTUAL threats against people, threatening rape, murder, harassment etc.

Where are the police then?
I have NEVER ONCE seen a threat against any trans people on this forum. Not once.

Come on Police spies, get your act together.
BTW, sex is binary, men cannot be women and I believe in biology.

To whom can I report that the survey was posted to twitter, a site heavily populated by aggressive TRAs and where misogyny goes virtually unchecked?

I'm too attached to my usual name to change it permanently though

I love this from Justine though

"The mothers are in revolt because they view this as a huge attack on their freedom of speech."

I know. I mean that's one hell of a sense of humour failure on someone's part

Oh god there's such a funny quote from an MN user in that article that I can't possibly post here because SCBN. But lawyers actually took that seriously!

In fact I just went looking for a link for people who weren't around then (I cannot fucking believe it was 2006!!!) and it's actually very interesting in the light of everything going on these days.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2006/aug/08/news.newmedia2

Fuck me I am SO sick of this shit.

The other day I idly wondered what it would be like if the SWCBN thing happened now...imagine! (I realise that was totally unrelated to the subject matter at hand, but still)

Are they going to arrest every biology teacher and tutor and lecturer across the world?
Are they going to declare physiology and anatomy and genetics books as "hate" propaganda?
Are they going to get the school curriculum changed to teach their preferred version of biology?

Total bollocks.
Whoops, I just committed a thought crime.
Better hand myself in.

You called??

Interestingly South Wales Police are currently advertising for a volunteer to join the force's Strategic Independent Advisory Group
www.south-wales.police.uk/police-forces/south-wales-police/areas/campaigns/campaigns/equality-and-human-rights-volunteering-opportunity/#:~:text=The%20South%20Wales%20Police%20Strategic%20Independent%20Advisory%20Group%20(IAG)%20performs,with%20the%20communities%20we%20serve.

One paragraph from this page reads:
"We need the membership of the Strategic IAG to be as representative as possible of the diverse communities across our three policing areas, in line with the Equality Act 2010. As such, will be looking to draw membership from each of the three areas that can offer localised experience of the protected characteristics listed in the Act."

Readers will note the repeated mention of the 2010 Act.

If anyone living or working in their area has the time...

(Apologies for the long link - haven't mastered shortening URLs)

Ok, how about some ACTION?

Police forces have Independent Advisory Groups (IAGs)
Most seem to be very specific, eg an LGBTQ IAG, or a disability IAG, or a youth IAG.

How about we all contact our police (via our elected representatives, the PCCs) and ask (politely) that as there are 9 protected characteristics in the equality act, 2 of which are pertinent to our sex (ie sex, and pregnancy/maternity), they therefore need to set up a dedicated WOMAN'S IAG.

And that this means women of the female sex only, because the protected characteristics is sex?

Check first that they don't already have such a group of course!! We could ask to be considered for membership of this group please, too.

Let's all do this

Have you a link for that, please? It sounds unbelievable, and yet…

Yeah but, erm, well, errr....

Not such a clever clogs after all. Never mind.

Because then they'd have to be able to prove in court there's no transphobic content on their forums and that would be extremely difficult given, well, the content.

You've had 24 hrs @BlueberryCheezecake did you find any yet?