Peter Tatchell says bisexuality will be the new normal for many

No doubt Tatchell’s personal boundaries remain intact whilst at the same time expecting everyone else to blur their own.

Who gives a shit what that paedo thinks?

"Gender aristocrats" seems to hit the nail on the head. This all feels like a very establishment-driven enterprise, with no thought to how the actual population may think or feel about these ideas.

Pardon me if I don't take opinions from a former member of the Paedophile Information Exchange.

Yes, wasn’t there a prominent French philosopher who was part of the movement to lower the age of consent ? And also seem to want to lower children’s sexual boundaries ?

Always interesting to see the similarities. I am not claiming Tatchell is a paedophile, but he surely does have some of the same patter as Foucault came out with around child sex abuse. Which will result in the same harms to children.

No, being bi is its own thing, we’re not an overflow category for people wanting to ‘blur boundaries’ or experiment.

Also, as has been said already, this guy has very dubious sexual preferences and weird ideas about capacity to consent, which he’s put in print several times. Don’t want to take relationship advice from someone who thinks that not all sex with children is ‘unwanted, abusive or harmful’.

I can’t understand why anyone is surprised by anything he writes now. Not since writing about ‘intergenerational sex’ with children having benefit (in historic times apparently) and that some children are not harmed by child sex abuse (when he dresses it up as ‘intergenerational sex’). That last was about some of his friends ‘having sex’ with men at aged 9 and 12 iirc.

And he recently said he was approached about a 15 yr old girl who told him how watching porn was good for her, because it taught her how to have sex. I think he said she told him that it taught them how to 'make him happy and he can make her happy'.

So he is all for minimising the harms of porn on children and ‘intergenerational sex’ on children (ie child sex abuse).

He has been campaigning for lowering the age of consent too I believe. From 16-14. I assume he is also going to ignore the predation on children in France by prominent French men that occurred when that happened in France. I mean, it is only recently some victims have spoken out. And looking at the positions of power the abusers are now in, it is not surprising just how long it has taken to expose and how few people have come forward.

But still. Peter Tatchell is in the media discussing sex education and lowering of the age of consent and lauded on his past activism. He keeps denying he minimises child sex abuse. But his comments stand, and his actions and comments around children watching porn and lowering the age of consent indicate his statements in the past were probably interpreted correctly despite his attempts to distance himself.

@Omicrone Yep, just like Kinsey was.

It's been something discussed for years and definitely been plenty feminist discussion.

Twitter is not the right place, his angle misses massive things to focus on his own angle, and his statement is lacking context, history, ... Well everything really!

It's a theoretical question. A tight experiment I think sometimes called. And it certainly prompts consideration and debate!

Question along lines of.

In a hypothetical future. Where hetero normativity did not exist in any way, and that was the norm and had been for so long no one had any concept of it.

Also there was no misogyny, racism, homophobia, classism, xenophobia or anything like that.

Where there were no hierarchies and no concept there even could be or ever were.

Where everyone is truly free, and truly equal. No poverty, no crimes of sexual violence, no coercion, no capitalist sex industry, no expectations around longevity of relationships/number of partners for anyone, whatever anyone wants to do. Monogamy 1 sexual partner life/loads of partners zero expectation judgement. Somehow children/risk of pregnancy all aok somehow...

In short. It's purely imaginary situation.

What would sexuality look like?

It's a fascinating question. Would some still enjoy a dominant role? Would people still have an interest in watching others have sex? Would sexual orientation be different size groups to now? Women being totally in control of when who how etc. What would that mean for Society?

When there's this type utopia presented. Invariably it's a male fantasy. The women are all young beautiful, skimpily dressed and high sexual appetite. Having sex (and when I've seen/read its usually with men involved!) all over the place group sex, approaching men with obvious intent and ripping own clothes off etc.

It's not about that stuff we know that obv! They never seem to get that in a situation where women had free choice.
That the result could just as likely be much less sex and group outdoor sex just. Hmm bit uncomfy cold. Sex with someone know better, know what I like. Sod that.

Yes it's v interesting.

PT just I mean whatever.

There’s that study that showed that the straight men with the most homophobic opinions were likely to be the ones with the strongest sexual response to gay porn.

Sexual behaviour has a significant culture element and always has. If culture changes, people's behaviours can change too - mainly it's not older people doing things differently, it's subsequent generations.

I'm not sure he's right in this case but it;s not a crazy idea.

He was always a creep. Dodgy. Why anyone takes him seriously after the things he has came out with , I dunno.

I guess he means vulnerable people will be coerced into crossing their boundaries and having even more sex with people they aren't attracted to than they do already. Progress!

@Whatwouldscullydo

Wtf is ge on about. Being open about your sexuality may have changed a bit but sexuality itself hasn't. You don't go from straight to bi or gay to bi because someone says it's OK you either are or you aren't.

I'd find lesbians and gay men suddenly declaring bi sexuality a sign that maybe they are being coerced. We know.lesbians are fir sure. That should ve something that bothers him as opposed to a cause fir celebration

Back in the 80s we could be ostracised, kicked out of the family home, denied access to housing or employment, insulted, beaten and correctively raped for being too queer (before the word got its facelift). Now, apparently, we'll get all of the above for not being queer enough.

Poor bloody lesbians, always at the bottom of Tatchell's Brave New World Order. Funny that.

”The boundaries…..are already blurring.”

Yes, Tatchell is all about blurring boundaries 🚩 🚩🚩

Because I think you'll find we've got a lot of the history of human misery that says thats not the case.

Some people are bi which is great, but equally some people have other perfectly valid orientations and saying that these are just the result of an oppressive society that should just loosen up sounds....off.

Tatchell is lower than the dirt under my feet.

His opinions are worth less than nothing.