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LGBT+ Police Network Wales survey: total gender ideology

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Pluvia · 14/01/2022 14:46

I've been forwarded this survey intended for LGBT+ people in Wales

www.smartsurvey.co.uk/thankyou

I've filled it in making it perfectly clear that I'm a gender atheist, I don't have a gender, I don't support gender ideology and that I don't regard LGB as having anything to do with TQ+. It seems clear to me that they are taking a highly politicised position.

If anyone else wants to fill it in all you need to give is the first four letters of a Welsh postcode.

I've sent a copy to Fair Cop. Is there any other organisation that might want to take this up?

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FrancescaContini · 15/01/2022 09:19

Do complete the survey - I enjoyed it. Unfortunately I was unable to ask for explanation of their question “Does your gender match the sex you were given at birth?” I have yet to find a satisfactory answer to what this means.

Rightsraptor · 15/01/2022 09:14

And somebody said her daffs were in bud? Mine aren't! Not fair 😕

Rightsraptor · 15/01/2022 09:13

Bloody women, having opinions AGAIN. Are we never going to learn our role in life? Tut tut.

If the police were monitoring this thread last night, I can only think it was a quiet Friday night in Wales and they were being entertainment by the Mumsnet humour evident here.

I hadn't planned to do this survey but as my ex is Welsh & my children are half Welsh I feel thoroughly justified in cracking on with it now. Thanks for prompting me, Mimmymum.

KittenKong · 15/01/2022 09:13

I used to call daffs ‘daffy-ducktails’ when I was little. Is this a hate crime?

FrancescaContini · 15/01/2022 09:12

Or at least, a name commonly used in Wales.

FrancescaContini · 15/01/2022 09:11

Thank you for the link - I really enjoyed completing the survey. I used my cousin’s postcode in Wales. I love a bit of Welsh identity at this time of year with the daffodils appearing in the shops. And my uncle is called David, which I believe is a Welsh name?

KittenKong · 15/01/2022 09:08

Someone seems to have friends in low places… and a bit of an obsession.

MrBIobby · 15/01/2022 09:04

The police are monitoring this thread? On mimmymums say so? Aren't Welsh lgbqt mumsnetters allowed to participate in this survey because mimmymum says You might want to know that your survey is currently being shared on Mumsnet - which is notorious for being an anti-trans radicalisation and lobbying platform - so you’ll likely receive spam / trolling responses

And on mimmymums offensive and hateful words, youve put a team on to monitor the posters here SWP lgbt+ network? Because mimmymum thinks women here are anti trans, as she doesn't understand being pro women doesn't mean anti trans? Are you excluding the wrong type of LGBT person? You never learn from your mistakes do you...

KittenKong · 15/01/2022 09:04

I’m Scottish so…

VaddaABeetch · 15/01/2022 08:53

Well I’m Irish which means I’m a Q Celt so that makes me more Q+ than welsh people who are P Celts.

KittenKong · 15/01/2022 08:53

‘Lalalalala can’t hear you’

Spero · 15/01/2022 08:51

I will be very interested to see their response.

KittenKong · 15/01/2022 08:43

Oh I say: twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1482271175946510340?s=21

KittenKong · 15/01/2022 08:40

@ErrolTheDragon

The idea that Mumsnet in general /this thread in particular might be 'monitored' by the police on the basis of a (possibly libellous?) tip-off from a non-trans person who unsuccessfully took a transwoman to court for transphobia is a little bizarre.
Is MNHQ aware of this? Monitoring? How much sway does this person (who, remember, dragged a trans woman into court and had the case thrown out) seem to think she has?
NotBadConsidering · 15/01/2022 08:37

Mimmymum is so lame 😆😆

Spero · 15/01/2022 08:34

Fair Cop are going to write and ask for details about the 'teams' the police now have monitoring this thread.

So here's a message for you. Dear police. Your actions are unlawful and if you won't take my word for it, we will see you in court. Again. Maybe you should be a little more careful about the quality of anonymous social media accounts who urge you into acting like a Poundland Stasi.

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 15/01/2022 08:24

I actually do live in Wales and wasn't aware of this survey. Cheers OP, I'll fill it out.

Whatshernamevirginiaplain · 15/01/2022 03:56

I'm a self identifying lesbian and a massive fan of Shakin Stevens and the Manic Street Preachers. I have family from Liverpool, which is near Wales. Thanks OP!🦕🦖

OhLordyWhatNow · 15/01/2022 01:29

Errol the original police tweet inviting people to complete the survey says it's open to anyone, it doesn't even specify you have to be resident in Wales, just that you need to know a Welsh postcode to participate.

Not sure what 'crime' Mumsnetters have committed for the person who reported it to get her knickers in a twist over. There's no hate speech here, just a heads up to say a survey is available.

It's an utterly appallingly constructed questionnaire with no way of gathering quantitative data. It will be a ball ache to get anything useful from it. It seems like the work experience person has been given the task on a quiet Friday afternoon.

ErrolTheDragon · 15/01/2022 01:08

The idea that Mumsnet in general /this thread in particular might be 'monitored' by the police on the basis of a (possibly libellous?) tip-off from a non-trans person who unsuccessfully took a transwoman to court for transphobia is a little bizarre.

OhLordyWhatNow · 15/01/2022 00:55

🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖💨💨💨💨💨💨

yourhairiswinterfire · 15/01/2022 00:46

Our cover is blown it seems.

Dinosaurs, get to the Flintmobile, pronto! We gotta get outta here man!

(Hoardasauras, don't forget to grab all the rights we've been stashing on your way out, we're not leaving those bad boys behind!)

OhLordyWhatNow · 15/01/2022 00:37

This is the original tweet. As you can see it says the survey is open to anyone.

LGBT+ Police Network Wales survey: total gender ideology
OhLordyWhatNow · 15/01/2022 00:27

@IcakethereforeIam

Welsh for she/her is hi/hi, adorable (depends on the dialect, I think) and is the survey bilingual?

No the survey is not bilingual, there is no Welsh language option as far as I could see.

Neither is it restricted to being completed by LGBTQ+ community. The survey asks about orientation and has multiple choice including heterosexual.

IcakethereforeIam · 15/01/2022 00:21

Welsh for she/her is hi/hi, adorable (depends on the dialect, I think) and is the survey bilingual?