BBC Doctor on people with a prostate

Now we'll never know who has a prostate

Looks like he’s deleted.

Yes, it's literally exclusive, ie you need to be in the club that understands what he really means.

When he says "people with prostates" and you're in the know, you translate that into "male, you know, the ejaculators".

If you're not in the know then fuck you I guess as far as Dr Xand is concerned.

Even the ugly, inaccurate and unnecessary "asigned male at birth" would be better.

'Who is a man?'
'Anyone who is one!'

So a woman is "anyone who feels like a woman" and a prostate haver is anyone who has a prostate.

I may or may not feel like a woman, hard to know without knowing what it feels like to be one.
And I may or may not have a prostate. I've not had one removed, but no one has ever confirmed if I was born with one or not.

So I might be a woman with a prostate, or a woman with no prostate. Or not a woman but have a prostate. Or maybe I neither woman nor prostate haver.

Q: Who has a prostate?
A: Anyone who is a prostate-haver!
Q: Where is the prostate located?
A: In the prostate-location!
……

Yes, let’s carry on with these gnomic statements. They seem super-helpful. Not.

He’s a virtue-signalling fool and a big disappointment.

Or maybe he doesn't think women are people.

He really is a numpty. No, you don't need to include everyone in this. You need to include males. Only males. Every male, not 'everyone'.

Thanks for sharing this. I follow them and later will go onto Twitter and find how to unfollow. It's so unhelpful for men to be lumped in with women, just as bad as the reverse in clinical care.

I've been to outpatients today, people there of all nationalities, it's the one place you truly see the diversity of our nation. Yet this dickhead cant even say the word 'man' or 'male'. It makes me so angry, I lost someone close to prostate cancer, not like men are good at going to the doctors in the first place. Absolute danger, how can they not see that clarity matters. Really pisses me off.

See I was a very sheltered child and pretty clueless when it came to this kind of thing. If I'd seen this and discovered I don't have a prostate I would be shitting myself.

Doctors of all people need to be clear, open and honest about out bodies and health. When they start skirting around things it feels like there's an element of shame involved and how does that help patients.

The first question needed to be 'how do I know if I have a prostrate'?

Yes, at various points in his life he will have been told "you are a boy" and "boys become men" and "men have prostates".

These fools rely on everyone knowing what men and women are really.

:( Kids love Operation Ouch. I went to see the live show and it also featured Dr Ronx (non-binary, female). It was the first time I had heard 'they' used to describe a single definined person eg not 'I am going to see a doctor and I will see what they say' (meaning - I am not sure whether the doctor I see will be male or female) but 'I have spoken to Dr Ronx and they said'. It really jarred and I heard a child ask a mother who in reply said 'she said'. So hard to teach children grammar these days.

It was very clear from the clip how much is lost by using 'people with prostates'. The first question needed to be 'how do I know if I have a prostrate'?

Perhaps someone could tag in the campaign for plain English?

He got the burn here

It's hilarious the way he's skirting around the question! Few people asking on twitter how will they know, and now I've got a Whitney Houston earworm...

How will I know if have I a prostate?
The GP tells me that I must wait,
Is it perhaps my sex that you need?
I'm asking you, you must know about these things!

How will I know if I have a prostate
Is it for those who e-jec-u-late
Or everybody, where could mine be?
Can you point to the prostate on me?

Have I prostate? Have I prostate not?
Ooooo how will I know??!!!!

He should read this and see the damage he does by calling pregnant women pregnant people

www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgwh.2022.818856/full?fbclid=IwAR1GmMyg9yC58i3SargXSSpsw1NgaVoD6raB8cz40YuEgx9VxFTr5A4m4OQ

It's Alice Roberts all over again. You can hardly switch the TV on without seeing one of the Van Tullekens on a medical programme of some sort. It must form a very significant part of his income so he's taking no chance of being cancelled and having to make economies. He does have an academic career, not sure about how much clinical work he might do as well, but I would imagine the media work is a lot more lucrative relative to the time it takes to do.

Disappointing.

*muddling

Well, that's nice and clear, then!

On the one hand, 'people with prostates' is along the same lines as 'people with a cervix' so at least there is equal language mudling for both sexes.

On the other, the tweets avoiding saying man, transwomen and any other male human show how ludicrous this whole thing is. The exchange Ciao highlighted is 'a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman' in slightly different trminology.

Q. "Which people have prostates, Doctor?"

A. "Anyone who has one! I don’t understand the question. Unless you’ve had it removed or were born without one then I’m talking to you!"

I think we all need to phone up our doctors and find out if we have cervixes or prostates. Because obviously doctors are all quiet at the moment.

We can be inclusive without being exclusive.

Q. "Which people have prostates, Doctor?"

A. "Anyone who has one! I don’t understand the question. Unless you’ve had it removed or were born without one then I’m talking to you!"

My DC haven't had prostate removal surgery (unless it was done without my consent or knowledge.) The dr has never mentioned if they, or indeed I, have a prostate. Should I assume none of us do?

He went to a really fucking expensive school full of ultra privileged boys. It featured in the Everyone's invited website and has used Bish for sex ed (famous on MN for getting kids to draw porn, declaring small dicks are identical to large clits & implying FGM is just a little more extreme than a piercing).

I think the adoption of genderism by these deeply privileged and competitive institutions, already mired with misogyny, which push their boys into positions of power, is such a danger and we will be dealing with the fallout for a long time.