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BBC Doctor on people with a prostate

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ChristinaXYZ · 13/01/2022 12:55

twitter.com/xandvt/status/1481594948176818176

Our two great institutions, the BBC and the NHS, combine for the above video clip and twitter discussion

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FannyCann · 25/01/2022 14:43

Have just come across this advertisement from a cancer charity I haven't previously been aware of "WHY - We Hear You".
They provide free therapeutic support to children, families and individuals in Bath and North Easy Somerset affected by cancer.

Offering male patients 30 minute mental health consultation.

Men - We Hear You.

I will await the corresponding Women - We Hear You announcement with interest.

BBC Doctor on people with a prostate
BBC Doctor on people with a prostate
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 24/01/2022 16:04

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

jeez those tweets

if you are sincerely unsure of whether or not you have a prostate then your GP will be able to clear it up for you in a matter of moments

......by telling you what sex you are

how the fuck can he look at himself in the mirror?

Or perhaps by sticking a finger up your bum - though if that happens when it's not necessary, it's assault. So that puts the GP in a very tricky position.
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 24/01/2022 16:02

@nauticant

I posted links to an archive of the deleted tweets *@Whatiswrongwithmyknee* but my post (just above) has been hidden. In case it isn't unhidden, you can find an informative link to the archive at my post upthread dated Thu 13-Jan-22 20:25:27.
Thank you. GMC may not agree with me but I consider this incompetence at best and have made a complaint.
EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 24/01/2022 15:11

@BootsAndRoots

Surprised it's not "people assigned a prostate at birth".
True. Or is meat lego reserved for women and girls alone?
BootsAndRoots · 24/01/2022 14:32

Surprised it's not "people assigned a prostate at birth".

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 23/01/2022 13:31

jeez those tweets

if you are sincerely unsure of whether or not you have a prostate then your GP will be able to clear it up for you in a matter of moments

......by telling you what sex you are

how the fuck can he look at himself in the mirror?

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 23/01/2022 13:29

I think it's because Dr Ronx who he works with on Operation Ouch is NB so it's a bit too close for comfort

yeah, I think we see this a lot, with people doing the bonkers 'I'm going to pretend it's impossible to tell what sex people are' dance to try to appease trans people in their lives

they then get angry when they're called out on things like 'people with a prostate', rather than maybe questioning why they're making a twerp of themselves on social media, saying things that they know to be bollocks, to appease that person in their life

maybe the anger should be aimed at the person who is making them feel they should be making a public twerp of themselves, rather than at the people pointing out that they're making a public twerp of themselves

that was a bit convoluted, but hopefully you get the gist. why have people in your life who you feel pressure you to ignore material reality, basically

nauticant · 23/01/2022 13:28

I posted links to an archive of the deleted tweets @Whatiswrongwithmyknee but my post (just above) has been hidden. In case it isn't unhidden, you can find an informative link to the archive at my post upthread dated Thu 13-Jan-22 20:25:27.

FannyCann · 23/01/2022 13:27

I say. Top speed deletion. Is four minutes a record?

DevonTF · 23/01/2022 13:25

Couple of his tweets

BBC Doctor on people with a prostate
BBC Doctor on people with a prostate
nauticant · 23/01/2022 13:21

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This post has been hidden until the MNHQ team can have a look at it.

musicalfrog · 23/01/2022 13:05

[quote UltraVividLament]@Whatiswrongwithmyknee it was a direct quote of his Twitter feed. Someone asked the question and the answer was given, verbatim as I've quoted it by Dr Xand. I wish I'd got a screenshot of it, because Dr Xand did delete all of the bonkers tweets afterwards. [/quote]
Pretty sure someone has a screen shot of it somewhere!

megletthesecond · 23/01/2022 11:36

yy Do I think that's the problem 😬.

UltraVividLament · 23/01/2022 11:35

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee it was a direct quote of his Twitter feed. Someone asked the question and the answer was given, verbatim as I've quoted it by Dr Xand. I wish I'd got a screenshot of it, because Dr Xand did delete all of the bonkers tweets afterwards.

Doyoumind · 23/01/2022 11:31

@megletthesecond

I'm disappointed in Dr Xand about this. He's not thick and needs to stop behaving like he is.
I think it's because Dr Ronx who he works with on Operation Ouch is NB so it's a bit too close for comfort.

But he deleted his tweets by the day after so I think he realised the mess he'd got himself into.

megletthesecond · 23/01/2022 11:22

I'm disappointed in Dr Xand about this. He's not thick and needs to stop behaving like he is.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 23/01/2022 11:08

@UltraVividLament

Q. "Which people have prostates, Doctor?"

A. "Anyone who has one! I don’t understand the question. Unless you’ve had it removed or were born without one then I’m talking to you!"

What craven nonsense. I used to quite like the Van Tulleken twins when they were cheery young docs on kids TV, but Xand at least seems to be morphing into a rather unlikeable middle aged man. Of course he understands the question! He's chosen to mangle language and be remarkably unclear in order to make sure he stays the right side of a particularly vicious set of witch-hunters looking for wrong thinkers.

Where exactly was this written? I'm thinking this could be worthy of a complaint to the GMC on the basis of discrimination and need solid facts to complain about.
334bu · 22/01/2022 23:00

Some men might not know the English word penis. To be truly inclusive you have to use the word man and anyone else born male.

PriamFarrl · 22/01/2022 22:57

So am I to take from this that as someone who was born without a prostate I am so how defective?

Male anatomy and health is so less talked about. Women have periods, go on the pill, get pregnant, have smears etc, we are used to our anatomy but I can see men out there who simply don’t know if having a prostate is one of those things like being able to roll your tongue. It’s something you either have or don’t have.

All he needed to say was ‘if you were born with a penis then you have a prostate’. The word man could have been avoided and everyone knows of they were born with a dick or not, no matter how they identify now.

QueenPeony · 21/01/2022 14:05

Apart from being dehumanising, and confusing for target audiences, this way of classing people as prostate-havers, people with cervixes, people who menstruate etc isn’t useful anyway, as there are now plenty of males who ID as women, saying that they DO have cervixes, periods and so on. (I haven’t seen any females claiming to have prostates but it can’t be far off.)

So it just descends into even more meaninglessness. The only way to do it is to have a clear definition of male and female. (which trans people do understand, or they wouldn’t be able to identify as trans)

CoffeeWithCheese · 21/01/2022 11:38

@musicalfrog they're both very woker than woke on this - rainbow flags and pronouns a-plenty.

Shame cos it does sour their superb Children's TV content... I just hope Mr Grumbles remains secure in his biological knowledge of sex.

shedevill · 20/01/2022 17:22

All this genitalia labelling is infantile, dehumanising & stopping men and women accessing healthcare appropriately due to confusion

CornforthWhite · 20/01/2022 17:10

Has the tweet been deleted?

musicalfrog · 20/01/2022 16:51

[quote DevonTF]@musicalfrog - 100% agree. Sick of the nonsense they get away with. I think we need to keep complaining.

Did anyone complain about their segment in December - on the covid vaccine, where Dr Xand referred to pregnant persons ?[/quote]
I didn't see that but I would have.

We went to see Operation Ouch live recently. I'm glad I didn't know about all this before hand or I would have spent the whole time begrudging the money I spent! As it was, it was a brilliant show. But I'll never see him in the same light again and it's made me feel quite sad tbh. I wonder what his brother's take on it all is.

Whatwouldscullydo · 20/01/2022 16:43

I made a complaint to the BBC on this - just received this. We need to keep complaining

I complained about the article the bbc put out on prostate cancer which refused to name men as the sex class affected.

I.got quite a different response. Mine basically said that because prostate cancer UK state prostate cancer affects men /transwomen/non binary males that they stand by their use of the word people.

So in otherwords confessing that as everyine else does the dirty work they can be woke.

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