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"identifies as 8 year old girl" scene from Afterlife

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MyFirstHypnosis · 12/01/2022 09:59

Appreciate that no-one here needs Ricky Gervais to tell them what to think but I thought some of you would appreciate this scene:

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I think Gervais is not making a series about identity politics but about cutting through to what matters (that this is someone's father pratting around).

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SeaWitchly · 15/01/2022 22:13

Wonderful Post RoaringLangCleg
I agree with every word.

I also felt uncomfortable with that scene and how Ricky encouraged the teenage daughter to focus on her love for her father, even though her father was no longer her father but a 6-year-old girl [in his delusion].

thethoughtfox · 15/01/2022 13:12

@VestofAbsurdity

Stephonknee gave advice, which was accepted and acted on, to the Canadian Government regarding trans issues. Make of that what you will.
Can anyone link to information about this?
Scraggythang · 15/01/2022 13:02

@Kanaloa yep. I think that’s how we all feel. What before would have been put down to a fetish or treated mental health issue is now to be validated.

If you haven’t already, read about ‘Princess Mom’ on Glinner’s substack. That’s a whole load of WTF.

Kanaloa · 15/01/2022 12:03

[quote Scraggythang]@Kanaloa There’s been a few threads on that individual since they were first arrested. There’s not much that gets by this board.[/quote]
I’m behind the curve! Oh dear.

It’s quite scary at the moment. Like you can say anything, and it is so. From ‘I’m a little girl’ to ‘I’m a minor attracted person’ to ‘I raped a woman but I should be in a woman’s prison.’

It sounds awful but there was a time when a middle aged man who said he was a little girl would have been thought of as very mentally ill and I don’t know if that’s really a bad thing. I know we’re supposed to be all accepting etc but at some point you have to say ‘no that’s not right.’

BitterTits · 15/01/2022 12:02

So, can I identify as a minor to avoid paying tax?

PonyPatter44 · 15/01/2022 11:57

I had a post deleted for suggesting that the next protected characteristic to be targeted for self ID would be age. And yet here we all are talking about Wolsch. I wonder whats going on.

Scraggythang · 15/01/2022 09:39

@Kanaloa There’s been a few threads on that individual since they were first arrested. There’s not much that gets by this board.

Kanaloa · 15/01/2022 01:06

It’s grotesque. I heard of another case today if you want your mind REALLY blown out - Barbie Kardashian. Shocking.

DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 14/01/2022 22:12

Kanaloa That's absolutely blown my mind.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/01/2022 20:58

Bloody hell!

Kanaloa · 14/01/2022 18:12

I do try my best. I saw a thread on Reddit about it so I guess I can emulate what they said!

The gist of the thread was that it was no wonder she had to regress to a child, this was caused by her children ‘rejecting’ her brave journey to womanhood and because of that abusive step (asking that their father not attend their wedding dressed as a little girl) it would have caused stefonknee too much pain.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/01/2022 18:09

@kanaloa, scarily convincing. Envy < not envy

"identifies as 8 year old girl" scene from  Afterlife
Kanaloa · 14/01/2022 17:36

@FlibbertyGiblets

Still no tickings-off, I am AMAZED. Almost as if some behaviour can't be handwaved away with strawmen thrown around amid accusations of not being him-clusive.
I can give it a go. Erm… stephonknee might be sad if we don’t accept her. She knows she’s a little girl because she feels it in her head. If we don’t accept her then that would be like throwing your 6yo out in the street to live because inside her head she is a 6yo.

Okay yes she met her ‘parents’ on fetlife but just because she had a different adoption process to some children doesn’t mean she’s not as worthy of love and acceptance as any other 6yo.

FlibbertyGiblets · 14/01/2022 16:53

Still no tickings-off, I am AMAZED. Almost as if some behaviour can't be handwaved away with strawmen thrown around amid accusations of not being him-clusive.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 14/01/2022 12:21

It's odd which threads they don't appear on...

Scraggythang · 14/01/2022 12:20

@ArcheryAnnie you got called out as a bigot for having an objection to StephOnKnee?

We really do live in wild times.

I have to say, I’m very surprised the usual suspects haven’t arrived yet to defend little one’s honour.

I wonder why not?

ArcheryAnnie · 13/01/2022 11:17

Aaaah, Steph On Knee. One of my first denouncings on social media by an old RL friend was on account of that person. I remember it fondly (though it really hurt at the time).

Also at that time, Steph On Knee has a Pinterest page that was half fetish porn, half photos of real little girls in party dresses. That should've been enough to have them be a person of interest, and yet apparently not so. Steph On Knee also published a blog, in the persona of a small girl, detailing the sex life with the "adoptive father".

Not enough "ugh" in the world. That person should've been in prison a long time ago.

BraveBananaBadge · 13/01/2022 11:10

I think I'm with warm, although also get what Roaring is saying about this.

On one hand Gervais is making a comedy show and this is not the main theme but a scene that does take some major swipes at the ideology. I image most people watching wouldn't believe such a thing would be real and is just daft.

On the other hand, there's certain dogwhistles in the set up. I don't mean that perjoratively, more an 'if you know, you know' way. And TRAs will go mad at him once they get wind of him taking the piss like this.
If Gervais didn't soften the blow with the scene outside recognising the dad as not so much of a caricature (even if only in context of the loss of his own character's dad) I don't think he'd get away with it - very much reminded me of Chappelle and Daphne.

But I see the deeper point about abuse which is real food for thought.

MyFirstHypnosis · 13/01/2022 09:29

....that was to Roaring.

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MyFirstHypnosis · 13/01/2022 09:28

Fwiw, I think you make a powerful point, especially the analogy to a walloping.

I don’t know any victims well enough for them to open up to me. I do know one prominent trans woman whose life is dominated by regrets and second-guessing about the impact of her “ordinary” transition (no 8-year-old shit) on the three children of and rightly so. You wouldn’t know it from her Facebook fan club though.

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KittenKong · 13/01/2022 08:24

It reminds me of primary school when they kids are playing ‘families’

‘I’ll be mummy and you are daddy. You are baby’
‘I don’t wanna be a baby!’
‘Ok you can be the dog!’
‘Woof woof’

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 13/01/2022 08:20

Agree, JHawkins "I was already in tears at this point before scrolling down to find Stefonknee was previously eight, but the actual seven year old girl in the house wanted to be older so the Stefonknee lowered their age by a further two years"

I feel sorry for Armando Iiannucci in this. He couldn't write satire like that. Poor man's career is gubbed.

JHawkins · 13/01/2022 03:21

@KittenKong

I wonder what the then small kids now think (this was about 8 years ago). Would a stroppy teen really want to introduce them a ‘my six (I assume they haven’t aged) year old little sister’ to their boyfriend/girlfriend/friend/teacher?
Been in hysterics laughing at this to the point my side actually hurts.

Mentioned up thread, but never has the saying/song “stop the world I want to get off” been more applicable.

Bloke in his 50s is now a six year old girl called Stefonknee. I was already in tears at this point before scrolling down to find Stefonknee was previously eight, but the actual seven year old girl in the house wanted to be older so the Stefonknee lowered their age by a further two years. Monty Python couldn’t come up with this stuff in their wildest dreams.

Kanaloa · 13/01/2022 02:27

They weren’t just allowing Stefonknee around the children - they were involved in the whole creepy thing, pretending to be the ‘parents’ to this middle aged six year old trussed out in Lolita clothes I’ve never seen on any six year old.

And apparently according to Stefoknee it’s ‘normal’ to destress and helps them ‘make everything into a game.’ It’s grotesque. There’s absolutely no other fetish people would allow their children to partake in and support like this. Nobody would encourage a couple to practice bdsm in full view of their children or any other fetish. No clue why this couple thought it was appropriate to make family children props in this adult baby/sissification fetish.

Femisaurus · 13/01/2022 02:12

So Stefonknee used to play with the adoptive parents' young grandchildren. No safeguarding issues there......Hmm