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Why am I not surprised?

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FatFucker · 09/01/2022 00:09

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382291/Did-Hertfordshire-Police-force-break-uniform-code-transgender-trailblazer.html

One rule for women and another for transgender women.

Having long green nails and heavy makeup, breaches Hertfordshire Police Forces uniform policy, unless of course you're trans! Then you can do what you like to "feel like a woman".

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VestofAbsurdity · 10/01/2022 13:08

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Twitter's there for everyone.
As are your words and actions on this thread.
youvegottenminuteslynn · 10/01/2022 13:04

@NoNotMeNoSiree

And there's a reason why you won't. We know it Yes, which I've already told you. I'm not linking photos of people into an already shitty conversation for people about police officers make up and looks for even more of it to happen
And yet you yourself literally took the time to look through tweets and come back on here to reveal you saw a picture of a woman you thought was wearing loads of fake tan.

Thereby commenting on a woman's looks.

So you didn't have a problem with doing that. You did it yourself.

What you did have a problem with was then being adult enough to hold yourself accountable for a monumental fuck up when other people pointed out that the officer you mentioned is mixed race.

TInkyWlnky · 10/01/2022 12:39

@NoNotMeNoSiree

And there's a reason why you won't. We know it Yes, which I've already told you. I'm not linking photos of people into an already shitty conversation for people about police officers make up and looks for even more of it to happen
Lolz. Not true. Wink
NoNotMeNoSiree · 10/01/2022 12:37

Twitter's there for everyone.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 10/01/2022 12:36

And there's a reason why you won't. We know it
Yes, which I've already told you.
I'm not linking photos of people into an already shitty conversation for people about police officers make up and looks for even more of it to happen

TInkyWlnky · 10/01/2022 12:06

@NoNotMeNoSiree

that poster declares they are innocent and that others are misreading their remark. A very clearly offensive remark, which was doubled down on FFS, Again for those at the back, I was NOT referring to that tweet! Ever. At all.
You could clear up any confusion quite easily. But you won't. And there's a reason why you won't. We know it. You know it. 🤷
VestofAbsurdity · 10/01/2022 11:58

@NoNotMeNoSiree

that poster declares they are innocent and that others are misreading their remark. A very clearly offensive remark, which was doubled down on FFS, Again for those at the back, I was NOT referring to that tweet! Ever. At all.
Methinks thou doth protest too much.

Everyone who has read/is reading or posting on the thread can read your own words and judge for themselves. People judge on the evidence supplied, you have supplied none to back up your denials, you have twisted and swerved and obfuscated, it doesn't require a genius to conclude why.

Whether you agree with the Dress Code for Police Officers or not is irrelevant, there is one, all officers, bar one it would seem, have to abide by it, your attempts to justify an exception for this one particular officer have been an education, but not the education I imagine you were hoping for.

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 11:31

it's all about concerns for what make up police officers do or don't wear.

As has been said, often. THAT is NOT the point.

But, again, NotYou will do as NotYou will do Smile

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 11:30

@NoNotMeNoSiree

But no, it's all about concerns for what make up police officers do or don't wear. That's be why there's '' laydee'' comments for example and now some kind of trans conspiracy and overlords?! Ok. Right. Hmm
ONE. ONE poster. In 355 posts.

And sarcasm - the overlords comment - which you have, again missed!

Not you, indeed!

Helleofabore · 10/01/2022 11:30

I have heard the many many tales of it.

When I say tales, I mean sitting and listening to the accounts from victims, and from witnesses. I am NOT implying 'tales' is in any way storytelling such as embellishing or anything such as that.

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 11:28

@NoNotMeNoSiree

that poster declares they are innocent and that others are misreading their remark. A very clearly offensive remark, which was doubled down on FFS, Again for those at the back, I was NOT referring to that tweet! Ever. At all.
But we don't know and you, the only person who couldclear it up, won't say because... that would be doing more of what you are already doing... or summink summink
Helleofabore · 10/01/2022 11:27

And after too many years in the military I've seen and heard such filthy misogyny, it would make your vagina curl up and die. So it doesn't help when a female "colleague" pulls the simpering female act to get out of a task.

I get it. I really do. I have witnessed the violent abuse, I have heard the many many tales of it. I have seen the after effects of the rapes, the bullying, the being pushed down stairs when no one is around to witness, the tripping up of women with their packs on out of resentment. I have seen the effects on my female friends who got out of the military due to the constant fear 15 years ago, still trying to cope with the PTSD that never leaves them.

I also understand there are some women who will try to pull that trick of simpering, and maybe they will succeed in getting someone else to do their job. Maybe they won't.

However, having a lighter pack, and making some allowances for female bodies is necessary though.

NoNotMeNoSiree · 10/01/2022 11:26

But no, it's all about concerns for what make up police officers do or don't wear.
That's be why there's '' laydee'' comments for example and now some kind of trans conspiracy and overlords?!
Ok.
Right.
Hmm

NoNotMeNoSiree · 10/01/2022 11:23

Obsequiousness to TRA overlords
Ok, I'll bite as I need to know now - WTF is a TRA overlord?!
Sounds like entering tin foil hat territory now and I'm asking as genuinely WTF is that but on the other hand thinking, you know what, do I really want to know as I don't think I do

NoNotMeNoSiree · 10/01/2022 11:15

that poster declares they are innocent and that others are misreading their remark. A very clearly offensive remark, which was doubled down on
FFS, Again for those at the back, I was NOT referring to that tweet!
Ever.
At all.

OhLordyWhatNow · 10/01/2022 10:10

@FatFucker

Ooof. Your internal misogyny is showing you might want to tuck that in and zip up your fly.

Aye right so it is! Sadly not every woman and girl is a feminist, so some of us have to suffer.

And after too many years in the military I've seen and heard such filthy misogyny, it would make your vagina curl up and die. So it doesn't help when a female "colleague" pulls the simpering female act to get out of a task.

So if you feel that holding these kind of people in low regard is misogyny, so be it.

"The Oxford English Dictionary revised its definition of "misogyny" back in 2002, changing it from "hatred of women" to "hatred or dislike of, or prejudice against women." And after Ms. Gillard gave her "misogyny" speech in 2012, the editor of Australia's Macquarie Dictionaryy_ acknowledged that their definition was in need of a similar expansion."

www.wsj.com/amp/articles/misogyny-has-its-meaning-shifted-1401490009

ArabellaScott · 10/01/2022 10:10

pulls the simpering female act - by intentionally getting hairline fractures in her pelvis?

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 10:09

So if you feel that holding these kind of people in low regard is misogyny, so be it.

It's more the broad brush stroke of these people; the language pulls the simpering female act to get out of a task. and the cognitive dissonance involved.

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FatFucker · 10/01/2022 10:06

Ooof. Your internal misogyny is showing you might want to tuck that in and zip up your fly.

Aye right so it is! Sadly not every woman and girl is a feminist, so some of us have to suffer.

And after too many years in the military I've seen and heard such filthy misogyny, it would make your vagina curl up and die. So it doesn't help when a female "colleague" pulls the simpering female act to get out of a task.

So if you feel that holding these kind of people in low regard is misogyny, so be it.

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OhLordyWhatNow · 10/01/2022 10:01

Helleofabore

"How about the casual hypocrisy too."

I got the impression even they weren't convinced by what they'd previously written, hence the back tracking and late night drunk posting excuse.

OhLordyWhatNow · 10/01/2022 09:44

@FatFucker

e recruits claimed that carrying the same heavy packs as males had also contributed to their injuries

So what did they expect the male soldiers to do? Carry their kit for them while they fluttered their eyelashes!

Plus it's the RAF for fuck sake, what kit do they carry?? Their butlers would carry most of it ;)

Ooof. Your internal misogyny is showing you might want to tuck that in and zip up your fly.

Helleofabore · 10/01/2022 09:07

I think other forces around the world lowered the maximum females were allowed to carry. And yes. In a group the extra got shared.

None of the many military women (across army, Air Force and navy) that I know are the eye lash fluttering kind. (Unless they were in intelligence out on an intelligence gathering exercise where eyelash fluttering was an effective tool).

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 10/01/2022 08:54

@FatFucker

e recruits claimed that carrying the same heavy packs as males had also contributed to their injuries

So what did they expect the male soldiers to do? Carry their kit for them while they fluttered their eyelashes!

Plus it's the RAF for fuck sake, what kit do they carry?? Their butlers would carry most of it ;)

Woah!

Maybe, if you think about it, a small re-design to the fucking kit!

Already available for leisure runners, fell walkers, mountaineers, polar explorers etc.

Helleofabore · 10/01/2022 04:33

@OhLordyWhatNow

Nice summary Cheese.

Though I think you missed:

Obfuscation
Casual racism
Obsequiousness to TRA overlords, and
Cognitive dissonance.

And plenty of head shaking and wtf's from others trying to comprehend what the repeated drivel and weasel words actually meant

How about the casual hypocrisy too.

‘You are all being hateful towards this poor person’

Yet when there is direct evidence of their own casual racism, that poster declares they are innocent and that others are misreading their remark. A very clearly offensive remark, which was doubled down on.

While continuing to declare what they believe other posters intend with their posts despite being told repeatedly and specifically what the thread and posts relates to.

I can only assume that they cannot see the degree of hypocrisy in that. That they spend pages telling posters their posts are hateful, no matter how many times they are told specifically and clearly what posts are pointing out, and then simply cannot even acknowledge when theirs clearly cross the line (because they are supposedly the kind and inclusive poster).

It really becomes clear the depth of prejudice being held by a few posters about this board.

And the dissonance in their own thinking.

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