Why am I not surprised?

cor blimey o'reilly

give it up

Yes.
I've told you what the reasons are repeatedly upthread.
But whatever, you know that.

which is probably why some really don't get that I wasnt talking about the tweet you all saw and said I must be too

Yet you wouldn't point out what you saw. Would you. Because of ',reasons'. And we know what the reasons are.

And then came back and said ha up yours MN bigots
Stop making shit up I never said anything of the sort, some of you really do like hyperbole which is probably why some really don't get that I wasnt talking about the tweet you all saw and said I must be too.
And yes, I stand by my opinion which is I could not give a shit if someone got to wear a brighter lipstick than me or painted their nails when I didn't /couldn't.

Back to OP. Pertinent questions to me to NoNot:

• Do you hold firm on your opinion that no jobs should have a dress code that includes rules on cosmetics, nail decoration?

• Are you still convinced that this pic published on Twitter by Herts police. Has attracted stacks of complaints on Twitter and also directed to Herts police through their complaints process.

• What's your thinking behind your belief the individual is breaching the dress code because trying to fit in.

Note:

I am not sure on how you define woman/female. For absolute clarity, I should probably add person with a vagina. In fact would that be easier?

Ok for total clarity, and esp given no idea of gender IDs of any other officers. And plus your previous assumption of gender identity based on physical appearance.

'The cosmetic decoration is the opposite of fitting in as a police officer who has a vagina'.

NoNotMeNoSiree

Personally I'd like to put your comments (that I quote below) about a police officer you saw a pic of on Twitter, to one side.

And get back to the OP.

I'm sure you'll find that welcome.

Comments-

'Well just a quick look at Hert police twitter account you don't have to scroll far at all see pics of other women officers being shown.
The first one I saw was someone looking like they're heavily tanned and like the fake tan bottle a lot or foundation.
Is anyone commenting on her appearance (apart from me now obviously which feels a hmm thing to do).'

And

'Oh come on, you can tell what's make up and what's natural skin tone!'

Poorly written.

Sure others can understand, hopefully.

And then came back and said ha up yours MN bigots, there's pic of female officer with an obvious shitty fake tan?

You must be aware the person who has been trawling for pics of Herts officers and looking for one whose appearance will 'prove' you're right?

While in doing so you must have assumed their gender identityas woman... How do you know their gender though?

Plus, even worse, are you assuming that if you see person you read as female,
Then they-

• Must be woman gender ID AND *Can't be a transwoman?

You are managing to deliver blatent, just totally obvious transphobia and misogyny.

And at face value you cannot even see it!

And you think you're the one standing up for tolerance and confronting bigots?

I don’t think this thread is quite as funny as the recent one with the pompous ungrammatical man who didn’t have time to educate all the scientists here on postmodern biology. But it is still fucking hilarious.

to all the posters here for your efforts.

The only person you are convincing here is yourself.

And I doubt even that is true

But I Tell You Three Times didn't even work in the Snark. So waddya expect?

I suspect not doing a particularly good job of convincing themself either. ☹️ I suspect a bit of reflection on what went wrong might be in order. I would recommend Gibbs reflective cycle as a helpful self reflection tool.

You'll never get an answer to that question OhLordyWhatNow, we'll make our own judgement and draw our own conclusions as to why as will all those reading this thread.

Just like they'll never answer as to why one particular officer should not abide by the same Dress Code Rules as every other officer on that Force has to.

Which exact tweet was it referring to then?

Still a yep it's true though. It wasn't referring to that tweet, but you're obviously determined to think otherwise, so do you.

Nope

Nope.

Judging makeup and looks.

Are not the same thing, which you seem to realise as you say and.

The judgement on makeup (with nails) is simply that they breach dress code, which for police is not exactly superflexible. Obviously.

This judgement was also made by loads of members of public, on Twitter and that info said also direct to force. Meaning they were actually genuinely pissed off if they bothered to do that.

It's not a handful of evil women who sit by s bubbling cauldron while posting.

Kind of hard to do if you are visiting a twitter profile.

I think that there is a deliberate disconnect also in 'judging someone's looks' vs 'judging the amount of make up and the neutrality of colour that the person has chosen to wear'.

siree has very painstakingly attempted to portray this as people 'judging someone's looks' when it is actually not the case in the vast majority.

Only someone intent on portraying a bad faith argument would continue to do that instead of discussing the actual issues raised, and repeatedly stated through out the thread.

"judging someone's looks" as an argument on this thread is a strawman that has been burned down and rebuilt too often.

And there you have it.

Even in response to a post with a direct quote you are still not owning your own words.

We can read, you know.

One of the first ones I saw!!!
Not the first one like people are making out.
How is that so hard to grasp?!

Lolz. Not true
Yeah but it is though.

Well just a quick look at Hert police twitter account you don't have to scroll far at all see pics of other women officers being shown. The first one I saw was someone looking like they're heavily tanned and like the fake tan bottle a lot or foundation.

You said the account.
You said it was the first female officer you saw.

Such a weird thing to then lie about!