Why am I not surprised?

Can you link to the photo you are referring to, because I'm having trouble seeing anyone with an aggressive fake tan.

fuck me that's a lot of make up in the shot linked above by GCITC. and those nails ain't neutral.

what's sauce for the goose isn't sauce for for gander eh? (or different rules for men and women to put it more clearly). plus ca change

yet you are judging a woman on her skin colour
No.
Make up being worn.

Can NotMe really be talking about the “mixed heritage” woman who is described as such in the Herts Police Tweet, which links to an interview where she talks about the unpleasant comments she received while growing up about the colour of her skin not being white? I hope not

Absolutely, 100 per cent not and I'd never do that.

If you have an issue with the dress code itself take it up with Herts Police.

Are you trying to get the thread taken down?

twitter.com/Herts_Specials/status/1473642606093602819?s=20

Should link to a pic of the red nails

Nice one! And unless you want Mnhq to delete your posts, I think you can see the issue. Incredibly offensive to double down that you did not post such an offensive post as some kind of ‘gotcha’.

You have to remember not everyone is as passionate about make up as you are.
That's funny, as I literally never wear it and as I said I couldn't care less if others wear it or not.
It seems people on here do though.

I mean can NotMe really be talking about the “mixed heritage” woman who is described as such in the Herts Police Tweet, which links to an interview where she talks about the unpleasant comments she received while growing up about the colour of her skin not being white? I hope not.

And do you believe that there should be?
No, of course not.

Seems to be a bit self defeating.

See an officer wearing heavy makeup and long, painted nails - oh right, as neither female or male officers are permitted to do this, that means this officer must be a TW.

No opportunity to see them as a woman (and thereby correctly 'gender' them), as their appearance is one solely permitted for TW.

Ultimately, is there a policy on skin colour siree?

And do you believe that there should be?

Because if so, that says a great deal about you.

Oh come on, you can tell what's make up and what's natural skin tone!
God this conversation is fucking horrible, it's policing women's looks and its sick.

And again.

So what? A person has a tan that YOU consider fake, but may be the result of that woman’s skin tone naturally or in the sun.

Is there a policy on tans? Who is the arbiter of what is natural and what is not?

This is a squirrel of an argument. Completely irrelevant.

The first one I saw was someone looking like they're heavily tanned and like the fake tan bottle a lot or foundation.

I looked at Herts police twitter too. It really seems like this quote is breathtakingly racist.

I hope I’m wrong and this person meant some other picture.

I've just had a look at Herts Police Twitter account and I cannot see what you see, can you link the picture or which account you looked at
The official Herts twitter police one.
It wasn't posted that long ago so it's hardly hard to find.

Coloured makeup. Not red… although, that would be great to see the scarlet red make up photo

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Ah, Ok. Well just a quick look at Hert police twitter account you don't have to scroll far at all see pics of other women officers being shown. The first one I saw was someone looking like they're heavily tanned and like the fake tan bottle a lot or foundation. Is anyone commenting on her appearance (apart from me now obviously which feels a thing to do. Why aren't they? Can anyone think why that may be? Or is it just saved for what make up a trans woman is wearing?

All the pictures on the one I looked at showed women police officers with minimal make up, short fingernails and no visible nail polish.

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Ah, Ok. Well just a quick look at Hert police twitter account you don't have to scroll far at all see pics of other women officers being shown. The first one I saw was someone looking like they're heavily tanned and like the fake tan bottle a lot or foundation. Is anyone commenting on her appearance (apart from me now obviously which feels a thing to do. Why aren't they? Can anyone think why that may be? Or is it just saved for what make up a trans woman is wearing?

So… any that have non-neutral colour red make up?

You attempts at twisting this is quite easy to see.

Why same force? What's that got to do with anything?

To be clear, when describing a situation of unequal policy application within one regional force, it is not appropriate, or even relevant, to compare a different force’s boundaries of applying dress code.

And this is about the double standard, regardless of all the emotionally manipulative posts that you post to try to twist this any other way.

Women have spent centuries having their appearance policed. Too much make up, too little , too short to tight too long too baggy too fat too muscular

Having finally got to a place where women can take the same effort as men on their appearance, along comes a transwomen demanding rights to wear make up in places it's not normally worn in order to appear more female , thus pushing the well groomed woman narrative back up the agenda

Thanks for nothing

That is the ONLY question being asked.

Last week we had a local hero, policewoman who had gone above and beyond for a vulnerable man.

Her award ceremony featured her front and centre. No visible make up, no nail varnish, all as per regulations.

What was the difference?

The force's Dress And Equipment Code And Standards Policy states: 'Individuals should keep make-up discreet or in connection with your religion/faith. Individuals in operational roles must ensure nails are kept short and any nail varnish must be neutral in colour

Once again NoNotMeNoSiree and BlueberryCheezecake above is the Force Policy, why is Cherry allowed to flout the Dress Code when other officers are not? That is the issue.