Wes Streeting on trans rights.

I'm sure their polling is showing them what a disaster trans extremism is - not just with the negative impact on women and children but in terms of how the public see it.

But it's a very low bar isn't it? Being pleased that a politician has said that women shouldn't receive rape and death threats for voicing opinions and that relabelling women as cervix havers might not be a good thing

Still - small steps.

Thanks for your input Wes. I'm not fearful or anxious, I'm fucking furious and I don't appreciate you describing the truth as gratuitously offensive and obnoxious.

I appreciate things are so bad that "crumbs" have become a cause for optimism but until people like Wes can stop playing the "both sides" card they can fuck right off because I find it gratuitously offensive and obnoxious.

I think he was as well covering his arse

Wes is just making sure his arse is on both sides of the fence for the sake of his career.

Threats to rape and kill. Menstruators, bodies with vaginas, ovary-havers, autistics with a cervix, black birthing bodies, TERF...

It's women that are using dehumanising language, is it? Really? Get real.

This makes me wonder if some internal polling has been done recently on the issue. That said any de-escalation is welcome.

Wasn't Wes involved in that Labour against transphobia Facebook group it involved Madigan and they set up a list of woman guilty of wrong think who should be expelled from the party?

twitter.com/GappyTales/status/956206511247773701

He is a careerist who cares only for his own rise up the party I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him

I really liked Wes, then realised he was up to his eyeballs in gender identity ideology. Wasn't he in some group that got women kicked out of Labour over their views?
However he is a politician, being tipped as a future leader. As this issue gets more sunlight and the public more and more show what they think of it, Labour will have to change their position to win an election. To win Labour need some of those Daily Mail votes, if they don't have a more nuanced stance they've got no chance.
He's big mates with Jess Phillips too so I'd like to think that in private they at least have some sensible conversations.

Hm. Sorry, nope. All he's said is that if you are horrible to an abused women it won't play well/win hearts and minds.

Still taking time to admonish feminists for whatever the fuck he's imagining they've said.

If this is the middle ground women are in massive trouble.

dehumanising langauge? what is he on about?

former head of ed at Stonewall ... interesting

but it seems to be more about 'how to win hearts and minds' and tone policing (the TRAs) than actually caring about women?

Yes quite the mixed bag but a glimmer of some sense! Thanks for sharing

Agree - starts very well, then goes down the tedious 'both sides' route. But I guess there's some hope for him

Oooh that was very sane.

Wow. That's a massive turnaround. Especially from the ex head of education at Stonewall.
Someone like this gives me hope that there might one day be a labour party I could again vote for. BUT there are a lot of people - including the dear leader - who have made so many extremist comments that dragging them back to a constructive position will be difficult.