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Boots magazine - repeating suicide stats and pronouns…

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KittenKong · 07/01/2022 08:36

I’ve seen screenshots on twitter (so not the actual thing).

The article is all about why we need to use preferred pronouns (and the stats that people are 50% less likely to attempt suicide if you do - in ‘a recent study’ which isn’t named).

We can literally save lives by sharing our pronouns and asking others for theirs. “Literally”

This is Boots. Boots the high street Chemist.

Has anyone seen a copy - I’m hoping it is a Moley
joke?

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IvyTwines · 07/01/2022 09:07

@Clymene

This was a survey conducted in the US. Apart from the shonky research, what's this got to do with the U.K.?
According to Wikipedia, it's now based in Switzerland and 45% owned by an American pharmacy company who plan to buy more. Well, we know what's a big and ever increasing business in the USA and, increasingly, over here too...
Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/01/2022 09:04

Mentally healthy people don't attempt suicide.
Where are the studies to show why teens with trans identities seem to have so many mental health issues?

Clymene · 07/01/2022 09:03

And that stat about not being legally able to change their documents. They're children. No children are legally able to change their documents. Confused

Clymene · 07/01/2022 09:01

This was a survey conducted in the US. Apart from the shonky research, what's this got to do with the U.K.?

Queenoftheashes · 07/01/2022 08:58

Not that I think the stats are anything but nonsense but he’s clearly misrepresenting the source material not just believing and repeating it

SunshineOnKeith · 07/01/2022 08:58

What I don't understand is how anyone is actually aware of how they're being discussed in the third person....

Queenoftheashes · 07/01/2022 08:57

From the source survey: Transgender and nonbinary youth who reported having pronouns respected by all of the people they lived with attempted suicide at half the rate of those who did not have their pronouns respected by anyone with whom they lived.

Whereas dudebro said “those around them” implying everyone they come into contact with

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KittenKong · 07/01/2022 08:53

Oh there is a source on the site version - *Source: The Trevor Project National Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health 2021 www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2021/.

Oh well then…

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KittenKong · 07/01/2022 08:51

But this is worse - I’ve never seen such outright declarations. No stats, no survey details, no quotes from ‘psychologists’.

Middle Ages white guy huh? I’m assuming they have agencies who are advising them that this is ‘how things are’. I have worked with enough agencies to know the type that act like hyped-up school children looking for every new bandwagon to jump on (without actual thought or conviction), and lose interest when the ‘new thing’ comes along.

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 07/01/2022 08:49

I imagine the article is also against Samaritans’ guidelines from what you describe.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 07/01/2022 08:48

I had a long email exchange with the CEO after they featured a trans woman on international women’s day: afraid they are totally captured and as a privileged middle aged white male he just thinks it’s important to be kind and has no understanding of the reality of women’s lives and why it might be more nuanced than that.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/01/2022 08:47

Nothing but emotional blackmail and coercion.

Stonewall should be using it's millions to provide support for poor mental health for people so triggered by not be asked their pronouns.

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KittenKong · 07/01/2022 08:47

I can’t quite believe it’s real. I know they did the ‘inspirational women’ thing a couple of years back (no guesses why some were inspirational) and thought they nights have reconsidered after the complaints they got but this is a hell of a lot worse.

50% less likely to try suicide because you didn’t share your pronoun or ask someone theirs? No back up, no study details… who wrote this? The 3rd form Lunch Club?

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Janie143 · 07/01/2022 08:43

Virtue signalling must send lippy sales soaring.