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What has Stewart Lee done?

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concernedfriend500 · 04/01/2022 08:49

I see lots of people on Twitter are slagging off Stewart Lee because he listed a lot of non-woke folk like Graham Linehan in his "pedal bin" of people he doesn't like. What is his public stance on the Trans Rights campaign though? I've not heard/read anything but I've probably missed it.

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FalloverBoy · 03/04/2023 13:20

Oh I don’t know ClogLady. I haven’t got any answers. Just throwing in my tuppence worth because I bloody love Kathy Burke and would like to think, in this particular instance, she might just be railing against the type of people who I might not want to get stuck in a lift with either.

And I clicked on that link and just sighed at listening to another man talking in that know-all tone, so I found myself switching off from the content of what he was actually saying. Maybe I’m just getting fed up of watching all these polemicists online with their ring lights and podcast set-ups thinking they’re social commentators of importance. Maybe if I read a transcript of what he said it wouldn’t be so irritating.

Having one of those days.

TheClogLady · 03/04/2023 12:09

FalloverBoy · 03/04/2023 12:05

I know what he’s getting at in that clip RoyalCorgi but his delivery is so patronising and self-important that I would love to see Kathy Burke post a response in her inimitable style - possibly along the lives of ‘Fxxk off you insufferable cxxt’ 😂

You’ve got to admit that ‘woke’ is often used as a slur by hard-of-thinking people who think that people are spoiling their fun by not allowing them to tell racist and sexist jokes? I think that’s who Kathy was having a go at.

(Those people annoy me just as much as people who throw ‘Karen’ about.)

I disagree with you but I’m interested in your suggestions for a better descriptor for the followers of the new religion?

FalloverBoy · 03/04/2023 12:05

RoyalCorgi · 03/04/2023 11:22

You might enjoy this - Andrew Lawrence's riposte to Kathy Burke's rant about "woke", but it applies equally to people like Stewart Lee:

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1641737107252076551?

I know what he’s getting at in that clip RoyalCorgi but his delivery is so patronising and self-important that I would love to see Kathy Burke post a response in her inimitable style - possibly along the lives of ‘Fxxk off you insufferable cxxt’ 😂

You’ve got to admit that ‘woke’ is often used as a slur by hard-of-thinking people who think that people are spoiling their fun by not allowing them to tell racist and sexist jokes? I think that’s who Kathy was having a go at.

(Those people annoy me just as much as people who throw ‘Karen’ about.)

dimorphism · 03/04/2023 11:36

RaininginDarling · 03/04/2023 09:57

Sadly SL, like a lot of terribly privileged people who work in comedy, seems to need to compensate for said privilege by reinforcing the current social justice dogmas - without thought or integrity. He'll never be impacted by lofty abstract ideas like 'sex is a social construct' being forced into actual policy.

It's partly "Do it to Julia!" and partly signaling status to others in his bubble of privilege who can afford to believe we can live in a utopia (if only those facist, middle-aged women would just stop banging on about VAWG.)

I mean, safeguarding is sooo boring. No glory to be had there.

Agree 100%.

He has children so you'd think he'd care about safeguarding but i think he probably cares more about his status and being smug.

RoyalCorgi · 03/04/2023 11:22

You might enjoy this - Andrew Lawrence's riposte to Kathy Burke's rant about "woke", but it applies equally to people like Stewart Lee:

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1641737107252076551?

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1641737107252076551

RoyalCorgi · 03/04/2023 10:36

He'll never be impacted by lofty abstract ideas like 'sex is a social construct' being forced into actual policy.

True. It's a fine example of a luxury belief. Having said that, he has a daughter who could well be impacted by eg having to share a changing room with a male-bodied person, or if she's interested in sport, having a male person join her football team or compete against her in swimming or running. So perhaps he hasn't thought about the implications for his daughter, or perhaps he has thought about them and doesn't care. Or perhaps his top priority is signalling his virtue to his audience, over and above any regard for his family. His wife, Bridget Christie, shares the same views as him so I suppose she doesn't much care either.

RaininginDarling · 03/04/2023 09:57

Sadly SL, like a lot of terribly privileged people who work in comedy, seems to need to compensate for said privilege by reinforcing the current social justice dogmas - without thought or integrity. He'll never be impacted by lofty abstract ideas like 'sex is a social construct' being forced into actual policy.

It's partly "Do it to Julia!" and partly signaling status to others in his bubble of privilege who can afford to believe we can live in a utopia (if only those facist, middle-aged women would just stop banging on about VAWG.)

I mean, safeguarding is sooo boring. No glory to be had there.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 03/04/2023 08:21

Kennedy’s an active Lib Dem according to Wiki, so I’m guessing she keeps her genuine thoughts about lesbians with penises to herself

how very liberal her colleagues must be

Musomama1 · 03/04/2023 08:10

Nostradamus played by Emma Kennedy, wonder what she makes of lesbians with penises?

TheClogLady · 03/04/2023 07:51

That word is not acceptable here. I’m reporting your post for transphobia.

dinkytoon · 03/04/2023 07:37

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bishophaha · 02/04/2023 20:30

Nostradamus and his (yes I said his, I am respectful of pronouns) flighty horse certainly didn't

TheClogLady · 02/04/2023 18:45

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/04/2023 17:46

yeah, much, much (MUCH) smarter than you

turns out richard herring was the one who made them not shit. who would have seen that coming?

Maybe it was the Curious Orange?

The Curious Orange

the complete Curious Orange chronicles compiled from both series of This Morning With Richard Not Judy(TMWRNJ)with Paul Putner as The Curious Orange, Stewart...

https://youtu.be/LAc_WpPpWlY

Backstreets · 02/04/2023 18:39

I used to love him, I’m so disappointed. Just another male “feminist” after all.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/04/2023 17:46

dinkytoon · 02/04/2023 11:07

And you are course are so much smarter than everybody to see through this charade....

yeah, much, much (MUCH) smarter than you

turns out richard herring was the one who made them not shit. who would have seen that coming?

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 02/04/2023 17:05

It’s the tedious smugness that gets me every time.

KittenKong · 02/04/2023 16:33

ScreamingMeMe · 02/04/2023 16:01

Well, Stewart Lee punchlines always take a while to arrive and are often quite weak when they do.

Yes - he thinks it’s a ‘you didn’t see that coming!’ Way. But it’s really more a ‘I’d forgotten when you started that’ way.

SerendipityJane · 02/04/2023 16:11

ScreamingMeMe · 02/04/2023 16:01

Well, Stewart Lee punchlines always take a while to arrive and are often quite weak when they do.

You forgot the endless repetition ... (yes, there is a subtext)

ScreamingMeMe · 02/04/2023 16:01

Well, Stewart Lee punchlines always take a while to arrive and are often quite weak when they do.

TheClogLady · 02/04/2023 13:18

dinkytoon · 02/04/2023 11:07

And you are course are so much smarter than everybody to see through this charade....

It’s not a blistering comeback if it takes you 7 months to come up with it.

dinkytoon · 02/04/2023 11:07

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/09/2022 12:14

I genuinely think people who say they like SL need to work on their self esteem

he doesn’t make you laugh because he’s not funny, not because he’s oh so much smarter than you

And you are course are so much smarter than everybody to see through this charade....

Musomama1 · 01/04/2023 20:09

SL: Robert Galbraith only works as a double standard if JKR is entering awards categories for male authors or giving talks to a rooms aspiring young male writers and talking about what it is like to be a male author.

I'd say a female writer using a male pseudonym is a nod to when women had to use male names in order to get published or sell books. Famously she used her initials only in selling her books to appeal to boys as well as girls.

And just to say yet again, it's maddening this position from SL. He wrote for The Day Today fgs, so many stories discussed on here would be fit for that kind of satire. BC has been openly TWAW since 2012 but surely now we've seen violent men and rapists going into women's prison etc etc that would change?

These are very intelligent people, more intelligent than myself. Genuinely Stew, please feel free to use this post and explain to your audience what I have missed and why Isla Bryson, Barbie Kardashian, Karen White and all those TW sexual offenders should have unfettered access to women's single sex spaces?

bishophaha · 01/04/2023 18:42

If "she is a hypocrite because she uses a male pen-name" is genuinely a joke SL uses in his set, then he is officially dunzo.

I'm semi interested in seeing his latest but will probably wait until it's on the telly, realistically speaking.

WalkOnGildedSplinters · 01/04/2023 17:09

That’ll do it Grin

TheClogLady · 01/04/2023 17:00

WalkOnGildedSplinters · 01/04/2023 15:58

I’ve not heard a single funny JKR joke on this subject. I think there’s definite potential there and JKR has a sense of humour so she might even laugh at it, but I’m still waiting.

This made me LOL.

What has Stewart Lee done?