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What has Stewart Lee done?

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concernedfriend500 · 04/01/2022 08:49

I see lots of people on Twitter are slagging off Stewart Lee because he listed a lot of non-woke folk like Graham Linehan in his "pedal bin" of people he doesn't like. What is his public stance on the Trans Rights campaign though? I've not heard/read anything but I've probably missed it.

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ScreamingMeMe · 06/01/2022 07:44

@kwiksavenofrillsusername

The Patton Oswald thing was utterly ridiculous. That photo of him pretending to be writing a thoughtful essay and staring into the distance. Fuck sake. But he knows his audience, I’ll give him that.
Patton got absolutely dogpiled by TRAs on twitter a few years ago, for posting a video of himself finishing reading the last Harry Potter book to his daughter. IIRC, it was something started by his wife, who had recently died.

I remember tellling some TRAs it wasnt the time or place for this, but they didn't give the tiniest shit. That incident will have taught Patton how relentless, unforgiving and self-centred TRAs are.

BraveBananaBadge · 06/01/2022 07:21

Can't access the whole thing but that's great from Arthur Matthews, miri.

KimikosNightmare · 06/01/2022 00:05

I've been to, and liked, most of his gigs except the Joe Pasquale one which I didn't find funny

Is the Joe Pasquale one a variation of the Tom O' Connor one? Faux self pity about how he's not as funny as a mainstream but now past it 70s/80s comedian but actually smugly sure that he's much better?

If it is, it's pretty low- hanging fruit isn't it?

kwiksavenofrillsusername · 06/01/2022 00:01

The Patton Oswald thing was utterly ridiculous. That photo of him pretending to be writing a thoughtful essay and staring into the distance. Fuck sake. But he knows his audience, I’ll give him that.

KimikosNightmare · 05/01/2022 23:57

All I can remember was tedious rambling about how disappointed his mother was that he wasn't as funny or successful as Tom O' Connor.

No doubt it was all deeply subtle and ironic and I'm just too thick to get it but it was utterly pointless.

miri1985 · 05/01/2022 23:23

Neither of these is probably worth their own thread but since both are mentioned in the Lee list; Dave Chapelle got denounced by a friend (Patton Oswalt) this weekend and Glinner was stood up for by his long term co-creator/writer Arthur Matthews

www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-features/arthur-mathews-graham-linehan-is-a-good-friend-of-mine-he-is-not-a-bigot-its-a-matter-of-free-speech-41203587.html

PenguindreamsofDraco · 05/01/2022 19:41

@NotDavidTennant

I assume this is him creating some material for the show.

It's a weird thing to assume given that the list is buried at the bottom of his newsletter and most likely no-one would have noticed it if Graham Linehan hadn't taken umbrage and made a fuss.

That's a curious form of wording. Why shouldn't GL "make a fuss" at the way colleagues and acquaintances have treated him? I'd be fucking raging. Wouldn't you?
KittenKong · 05/01/2022 19:38

Reminds me of a stage hypnotist.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 05/01/2022 19:30

i remember going to see him and finding him pretty shit

he attempted to get the audience to give a round of applause for the IRA for some reason

no one did

he looked like a twat

ScreamingMeMe · 05/01/2022 19:25

I used to like Fist of Fun. Tried to watch Lee's Comedy Vehicle (I think it was called), and it just bored the shit out of me (and I was still in my " The Left can do no wrong, Tories are evil" phase then).

I do wonder how much of a line there is between his stage persona and his real self.

DeckardK · 05/01/2022 19:01

I too used to like him, but haven't for years now as he is too sneery - DH still really likes him, though he goes to see him with a friend these days.

I notice he has the women in red on his list and half of Glinners name, probably a juvenile joke Hmm

SignOnTheWindow · 05/01/2022 18:26

@MilesJuppIsMyBitch

I saw him about four years back, in that little theatre off Leicester Square.

Honestly, I found it so funny, I nearly had a full-on asthma attack. I think he's a genius.

Which is why this is shit.

I think we might have been at the same performance! I remember someone laughing so hard they were gasping.

I agree. Disappointing isn't it?

kwiksavenofrillsusername · 05/01/2022 18:21

@KittenKong

Desperate to be relevant to a ‘noo audience’ (who, let’s face it, won’t cough up for tickets and are way too high maintenance).
Cool. Good on him. We all know how reasonable his new audience will be. Let’s hope he’s not said anything ever that could be construed as offensive under a modern lens. Or decides to voice any opinions in future that are not approved.
NotDavidTennant · 05/01/2022 17:46

I assume this is him creating some material for the show.

It's a weird thing to assume given that the list is buried at the bottom of his newsletter and most likely no-one would have noticed it if Graham Linehan hadn't taken umbrage and made a fuss.

undertheblanket · 05/01/2022 16:57

@KittenKong

I’ve seen him a few times now - I know what his shows can be like. I assume this is him creating some material for the show.
Almost certainly. Doesn't make it OK to harass and intimidate people along the way.
lovelyweathertoday · 05/01/2022 16:30

[quote Rightsraptor]@lovelyweathertoday - I have read I think two James Bond books and in one of them Ian Fleming wrote 'the sweet tang of rape' after one of Bond's sexual encounters.

I read no more.[/quote]

Ew, that's revolting. I haven't watched all the bond films, but as far as I can remember Bond is just very attractive to women, not a rapist.

KittenKong · 05/01/2022 15:12

I’ve seen him a few times now - I know what his shows can be like. I assume this is him creating some material for the show.

NotDavidTennant · 05/01/2022 15:08

who wants to sit through a 2 hour ramble about why women are nasty and why they are wrong, stupid, overreacting, demonstrating why he is so wonderful (and so much more intelligent),

See this is the kind of stuff I don't get. You're winding yourself up over a version of his show that only exists in your head.

KittenKong · 05/01/2022 14:56

Desperate to be relevant to a ‘noo audience’ (who, let’s face it, won’t cough up for tickets and are way too high maintenance).

BooseysMom · 05/01/2022 13:56

I've always found him refreshingly unique. He makes me laugh anyway. His stage climbing efforts are worth the ticket price alone! So I wonder what has gone so wrong?

KittenKong · 05/01/2022 12:12

I was asked to book - but I point blank refused because he was being a bit of a tit before. Glad I didn’t - who wants to sit through a 2 hour ramble about why women are nasty and why they are wrong, stupid, overreacting, demonstrating why he is so wonderful (and so much more intelligent), etc etc etc.

BooseysMom · 05/01/2022 12:02

I think I'm going to give the new show a miss, only I've just spent £50 on tickets (£10 booking fee alone!) and no refunds

Rightsraptor · 05/01/2022 09:33

@lovelyweathertoday - I have read I think two James Bond books and in one of them Ian Fleming wrote 'the sweet tang of rape' after one of Bond's sexual encounters.

I read no more.

HandsOffMyRights · 05/01/2022 09:18

lovely that's exactly what I thought on that tour and how I responded.

lovelyweathertoday · 05/01/2022 08:43

@undertheblanket

Everything's OK when it's ironic, of course. When it comes to rape jokes, men are enlightened and women need to lighten up. As always.
That was why I wasn't laughing at his last show. He did a really long bit about James Bond going around raping. And because he uses repetition I just sat there with him saying "rape" repeatedly while I thought about the women closest to me who had been raped, and wondered how much more unpleasant the experience was for other women in the audience. It doesn't even work at any level because James Bond seduces women who are willing partners. So he spent a whole load of time describing consensual sex as rape.

I usually find him funny.

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