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Eddie Izzard….has he reverted back to male ID

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Lovelymincepies · 03/01/2022 20:40

Just watching Stay Close, 1st episode, and it has Eddie Izzard being a man. This seems at odds with his spouting of ‘I’ve always known I am a woman’ bullshit.

This got me thinking that I’ve not heard much about his womanly feelings or Sam ‘pratface’ Smith either. Have they backtracked a bit?

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AryaStarkWolf · 04/01/2022 14:20

@Pumpkinstace

If he played a transwoman he would be accused of being typecast (or similar)

If he played a woman people would complain that he isn't a woman.

Eddie can't win because people are judgemental arseholes most of the time

he could win by using the male toilets/changing rooms.........
Pumpkinstace · 04/01/2022 14:15

If he played a transwoman he would be accused of being typecast (or similar)

If he played a woman people would complain that he isn't a woman.

Eddie can't win because people are judgemental arseholes most of the time

OldCrone · 04/01/2022 14:11

You've missed the point that EI is now identifying as a woman and using female pronouns. Yet still performing as a male in all acting roles.

Exactly. "Girl mode" for the toilets. "Boy mode" for the acting roles.

He used to be a man who liked wearing dresses. Now he thinks wearing a dress makes him a woman (unless an opportunity presents itself where it would be more lucrative to be a man).

ChequerBoard · 04/01/2022 13:59

@PhoenixIsFlying

Mmmn I was referring to the original post. I also know for a fact never to read and believe anything that comes from tabloids. So EI is a man who enjoys dressing as a woman? If that is correct why is he not able to act as a man? He is in the entertainment industry, acting is his way of earning a living, therefore why is it a problem for him to do so?

You've missed the point that EI is now identifying as a woman and using female pronouns. Yet still performing as a male in all acting roles.

SarahDippity · 04/01/2022 13:58

Saw this on Twitter

Eddie Izzard….has he reverted back to male ID
RepentMotherfucker · 04/01/2022 13:53

@PhoenixIsFlying

Mmmn I was referring to the original post. I also know for a fact never to read and believe anything that comes from tabloids. So EI is a man who enjoys dressing as a woman? If that is correct why is he not able to act as a man? He is in the entertainment industry, acting is his way of earning a living, therefore why is it a problem for him to do so?
I don't think the OP says there is a problem with him 'acting as a man' does she?
PhoenixIsFlying · 04/01/2022 13:49

Mmmn I was referring to the original post. I also know for a fact never to read and believe anything that comes from tabloids. So EI is a man who enjoys dressing as a woman? If that is correct why is he not able to act as a man? He is in the entertainment industry, acting is his way of earning a living, therefore why is it a problem for him to do so?

Scraggythang · 04/01/2022 13:36

Quite, @GroggyLegs ‘girl mode’ when it’s not something you can switch on and off isn’t the experience these men who fetishise us think it is.

I wonder if Eddie will do some self reflection one day to see his misogyny and acknowledge his abuse of male privilege?

AryaStarkWolf · 04/01/2022 13:34

@PhoenixIsFlying

So EI is trans. Why is then he acting as a man a problem? I know men who enjoy dressing as women, but not all the time. They go to work as a man but sometimes dress as a woman. They are not causing any harm so what is the problem with EI acting as a man?
No problem at all as long as they don't try to force themselves into female only spaces the following day
HaroldMeeker · 04/01/2022 13:30

EI has not reverted back to male, EI is and will remain male for their entire livespan. Doesn't matter what they wear, say or do, that physique is male. They're just jumping ship depending on where the money is and I'm sick and tired of gits like this taking advantage. Here it is, in plain sight. Self ID allows people to take advantage of loopholes and barge into spaces not meant for them. EI is a male, yet has gleefully recited the impact their presence in a female toilet had on young females. Was EI sympathetic to the potential issues? Was EI sensitive to the needs of the females? Was EI remotely concerned that the youngsters in question may well be frightened by EI's presence? Nope. EI got a boner.
Stuff your "no harm" crap.

RepentMotherfucker · 04/01/2022 12:51

You have read the thread and you think the issue is with him acting as a man? Confused

PhoenixIsFlying · 04/01/2022 12:41

So EI is trans. Why is then he acting as a man a problem? I know men who enjoy dressing as women, but not all the time. They go to work as a man but sometimes dress as a woman. They are not causing any harm so what is the problem with EI acting as a man?

GroggyLegs · 04/01/2022 12:31

Yes @RepentMotherfucker - I read EI's account of the toilet incident & while I think I was meant to find it hilarious with a side of 'poor Eddie' my interpretation was a full grown male, running between cubicles & acting really strangely in a women's toilet in front of some young girls.

And in EI's opinion, they were the ones in the wrong.

Properly odd that he'd offer it up to the world as a positive thing. Men have no clue how women live their lives.

RepentMotherfucker · 04/01/2022 12:08

Because it impacts on other people. If EI decides to ‘be in girl mode’ and frightens girls in a bathroom for women and girls then it’s not making them very happy is it? Why does his happiness trump theirs?

That's 'when's not 'if'. Eddie wrote about it in his autobiography didn't he? Teenaged girls finding him in the toilet and pointing out that it was the Ladies and how he reacted. I can't remember - didn't he shout at them or something?

Take the 'famous comedian' out of that and it's just a middle aged man shouting at teenage girls in a women's toilet. I wonder he can find work as an extra tbh...

AryaStarkWolf · 04/01/2022 10:34

@MobyDicksTinyCanoe

Well I obviously need an eyetest because I thought that was Sean Bean Blush
Wrong thread, but yeah you really confused me too with the Sean Bean picture :p
MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 04/01/2022 10:20

Well I obviously need an eyetest because I thought that was Sean Bean Blush

Lovelyricepudding · 04/01/2022 10:15

Was it quite so harmless when he wore skirts and lipstick and said they were his clothes not women's clothes? Why was he wearing them? Just because he liked them or because it was exciting in a way he is now becoming more honest about? (MN he certainly used 'he' at that time).

I often see it said on here that it is great when men are non-conforming and wear women's clothes so long as they don't call themselves women. But why are they wearing women's clothes? If they are just looking for a more eclectic look then they would wear florals/frills/delicate items cut to fit men - they don't, they wear women's clothes and I don't believe it is for convenience either.

Phobiaphobic · 04/01/2022 10:13

Eddie Izzard is grifting in plain sight.

dangerrabbit · 04/01/2022 09:58

This reminds me of when Caitlyn Jenner identified as a man again to attend her male only golf club.

"The most difficult thing about being a woman is deciding what to wear."

YouSetTheTone · 04/01/2022 09:34

@PhoenixIsFlying

Why does it matter? If he is happy then why does it worry anyone else?
Because it impacts on other people. If EI decides to ‘be in girl mode’ and frightens girls in a bathroom for women and girls then it’s not making them very happy is it? Why does his happiness trump theirs? If EI used the men’s while dressing in feminine clothes/ makeup etc- fine knock yourself out luv. It’s when the nature of EI’s self expression impacts on women that it becomes an issue. No one would care if it didn’t impact women. Why would we?

If EI’s behaviour is extrapolated suddenly we have thousands of men theoretically capable of walking into women’s single sex spaces but remaining ‘male’ in the business world, only cropping up as ‘female’ again perhaps in arts arenas that enable a quick pop onto a women only shortlist for a prize. Basically a journey of nipping around all over the place helping themselves to things reserved for women.
That’s why ‘he’s happy why does it matter?’ matters.

Voice0fReason · 03/01/2022 22:55

It really is the ultimate in male privilege isn't it.
He's a man or a woman whenever he wants to be.
Just shows how meaningless gender identity is.

Ionlydomassiveones · 03/01/2022 22:40

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PhoenixIsFlying · 03/01/2022 22:36

Why does it matter? If he is happy then why does it worry anyone else?

OverByYer · 03/01/2022 22:23

I had huge admiration for the old Eddie who wore dresses and make up, and was funny. Now he has become a dull cliche.

CruellaDeVilla · 03/01/2022 22:19

@HepzibahGreen

What a coincidence that there are many many more roles for late middle aged men in film and TV than there are for late middle age women. How lucky that boy mode kicks in for Eddie right when the role calls for an ageing man, rather than an ageing woman. Otherwise he might never work in acting again!
So lucky!
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