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To not understand the issue with surrogacy?

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Blackbird1234 · 30/12/2021 18:29

I've seen a few posts on some threads in this topic, from people condemning surrogacy. I don't understand why it is seen as bad, if all parties consent. Can anyone explain, please?

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PatriotCanes · 30/12/2021 18:42

Because think of all the children who were adopted in the 1950s, 1960s and1970s and who have suffered because of the way it was handled because we didn't know better at the time.

Because think of all the children born from sperm donation in the 1970s and 1980s and who have suffered because of the way it was handled because we didn't know better at the time.

We know now children who are removed from their mothers at birth suffer. We know now children who do not know about their biological/genetic history suffer. We know selling children is wrong. And yet surrogacy is suddenly absolutely fine and doesn't harm the children involved at all?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 30/12/2021 18:42

If all parties consent and it is a voluntary offer by someone who knows the person who wants a child (sister having a child for childless and desperate sister, for instance) then I think there is nothing wrong with it.

If it is a wealthy Westerner using the body of a woman in a poor country and paying money, then it's just another form of slavery; twice over, because the mother's body is bought and the child is also bought.

If you read the section on "Targeting the vulnerable" at www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47826356
you will get an idea of the purely practical objections, even leaving to one said any question of the mental health of either mother or infant.

Dozer · 30/12/2021 18:39

Economic unfairness since women selling their bodies and/or eggs are far worse off financially than those buying them.

Health risks to the mothers.

Couples having a say in, or even dictating, what mothers should/shouldn’t do with their bodies.

DCs not having access to the identity of their biological parent(s).

Risks to DC due to being removed from their birth mother.

ontana · 30/12/2021 18:39

How does the child consent?

We adopted a kitten recently. I signed up to load of cat rescues and one of them has a social media campaign atm called "eight precious weeks" raising awareness of kittens taken from their mothers too early.

But we think it's fine to do that to a human baby.

PurpleDaisies · 30/12/2021 18:39

So how about if it was a rich couple using another rich woman as a surrogate - would that be viewed in a better way?

How often do you think that actually happens?

Blackbird1234 · 30/12/2021 18:38

Would a baby really notice that its new mother is not the one it was grown in? I don't have children, so genuinely don't know.

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Blackbird1234 · 30/12/2021 18:37

So how about if it was a rich couple using another rich woman as a surrogate - would that be viewed in a better way?

Unethical or not, surely with something like this as long as there is full consent from all parties it should be fine?

Both genuine questions, not snippy replies.

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ontana · 30/12/2021 18:37

Yeah that's why loads of really wealthy women sign up for it out of pure altruism Hmm

ontana · 30/12/2021 18:35

Because it is a commodification of a human life and a woman's body.

AutumnAnn · 30/12/2021 18:35

Some people on here seem to believe a woman is incapable of willingly making the decision to carry a baby for another person and seem to think every surrogate is a slave to their body/ made to do it... etc.

WarrickDavisAsPlates · 30/12/2021 18:34

The baby that is being brought into the world with the intention of ripping it from its mother and the only home its ever known does not get to consent to the situation.

Mumteedum · 30/12/2021 18:32

Because poor women in poor countries are exploited by wealthy western couples.

Because renting someone's body is unethical despite any notion of consent. Should be be able to consent to life changing pregnancy complications or even death?

Because it's not in the child's interest, it's all about the adopting parents.

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