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If women cannot be defined biologically what happens to sex based oppression?

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Metabigot · 30/12/2021 16:25

I mean reproductive issues such as abortion, antenatal care, maternity leave and impact on career etc.

Will we not be able to speak out on these for fear of offending the 'women' (ie trans women ) to whom this does not apply?

If transwomen are women, what are natal women... not representative of 'women' under the trans ideology it seems.

I have nothing against trans women living a life they wish and 'as a woman' if that eases dysphoria etc but my greatest fear is that female biological rights and issues will be suppressed under this ideology.

It feels like the way things are going it will be soon offensive to discuss these issues as it excludes transwomen.

Or am I exaggerating this?

Would transwomen ever support their fellow 'women' in fighting for these rights. Or see it as exclusive?

I'm referring to mainly reproductive issues as this is the one thing above all others transwomen can't do... no transwoman to my knowledge has gestated a child yet.

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ErynIsTrans · 05/01/2022 23:55

@EasyBreezy

I have to say that the comment about using male toilets because you felt safer away from female toilets made me wonder...is that because of all the men in the female toilets?
No its because of all of the women in the female toilets. As I was presenting as male they would often stare at me as if i didn't belong. I am an AFAB person. I feel safer from transphobia if i go to the men's toilets.
PlasticPlantsDontDie · 05/01/2022 23:17

Why can’t you just dress and present yourself how you like without having to label yourself, or others?

EasyBreezy · 05/01/2022 23:14

I have to say that the comment about using male toilets because you felt safer away from female toilets made me wonder...is that because of all the men in the female toilets?

HaroldMeeker · 05/01/2022 23:03

Distracted by the clangers and soup dragon, I expect! Totally understandable!
nods sagely at us being able to educamate a neptunian on moon stuffz

Shedmistress · 05/01/2022 22:58

@ErynIsTrans

I shop in the men's section, and I get my hair done by a unisex hairdresser and it is more stereotypically masculine looking

That's your choice! And that of course doesn't make you any less of your preferred gender, I just choose for that to mean that I present much more masculine and loser to being a man.

You realise you are talking to yourself there.
littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:57

And soup dragons baby 🥰

HaroldMeeker · 05/01/2022 22:56

@ErynIsTrans

I shop in the men's section, and I get my hair done by a unisex hairdresser and it is more stereotypically masculine looking

That's your choice! And that of course doesn't make you any less of your preferred gender, I just choose for that to mean that I present much more masculine and loser to being a man.

You do realise you're talking to yourself here?

You feeling okay, hun?

HaroldMeeker · 05/01/2022 22:54

@littlbrowndog

Soup dragon is ❤️
Yay! Another soup dragon fan!

Milky bars are on me!!!!!

ErynIsTrans · 05/01/2022 22:53

I shop in the men's section, and I get my hair done by a unisex hairdresser and it is more stereotypically masculine looking

That's your choice! And that of course doesn't make you any less of your preferred gender, I just choose for that to mean that I present much more masculine and loser to being a man.

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:51

Soup dragon is ❤️

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:51

I think they are on just before night garden might be mistaken as by then I have lost the will to watch

HaroldMeeker · 05/01/2022 22:50

I loved the sound the soup dragon made! That lovely burbling hooty noise! So fun! And when I was 10, I got a whistle in my Christmas stocking that made a noise just like the clangers!

Ahhhhhh.....simpler days!

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:49

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Who do I need to write to in order to get the Clangers back on CBeebies?

Their fashion was gender neutral.

Visionary.

They are on. Trust me I have been forced to watch
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/01/2022 22:48

That fucking explains a thing or two, Arabella

I was brought up on that and Captain Pugwash. Swearing and wanking are my best skillz

ErynIsTrans · 05/01/2022 22:48

[quote Moonbabysmum]@ErynIsTrans

I didn't say you weren't human.

But if you were otherkin, do you think that human rights apply to them? If yes, how is that compatible with supporting their identity?[/quote]
Again, I've never met someone who feels that way, so I'm not sure lmao I don't have all the answers. Maybe if you meet someone like that you could ask them?

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:48

The clangers. Total tossers all of them. So wrong. But yet so right

HaroldMeeker · 05/01/2022 22:47

I have a book of knitting patterns for the clangers!!! Pure class!!!!

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:47

@HaroldMeeker

But that's a different planet!!!!!

wails
!!!!!!!!

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
ArabellaScott · 05/01/2022 22:46

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

'how do narcissists narcissist best when in a room full of narcissists' has been answered

fantastic summary, Shed.

Also, now that I'm trying try hard to "educate myself" - I found this...Neptune = Clangers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seal_of_Neptune

Grin

DID YOU KNOW the clangers were actually swearing quite often? True fact.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/01/2022 22:46

Who do I need to write to in order to get the Clangers back on CBeebies?

Their fashion was gender neutral.

Visionary.

ErynIsTrans · 05/01/2022 22:45

@littlbrowndog

I mean night garden makes me feel like a trip to far

Guess erynis feels same

btw my name is eryn not erynis - my username reads eryn is trans
HaroldMeeker · 05/01/2022 22:45

But that's a different planet!!!!!

wails
!!!!!!!!

ErynIsTrans · 05/01/2022 22:44

@PlasticPlantsDontDie

I have a masculine haircut and wear masculine clothes

In what way are your clothes and hair masculine?

I shop in the men's section, and I get my hair done by a unisex hairdresser and it is more stereotypically masculine looking
Moonbabysmum · 05/01/2022 22:44

@ErynIsTrans

I didn't say you weren't human.

But if you were otherkin, do you think that human rights apply to them? If yes, how is that compatible with supporting their identity?

littlbrowndog · 05/01/2022 22:44

I mean night garden makes me feel like a trip to far

Guess erynis feels same