Blooming hell, Piers Morgan

Well yes, but only if those people are extraordinarily stupid

I was just thinking this

I don’t like the man and from the little Ive seen of him I don’t agree with much of what he says…but he’s not wrong about this

I don't think anyone would accuse Piers of being a feminist. He happens to be right about JK Rowling.

The more people who say out loud that humans can't change sex the better. It means even more humans will eventually be able to say it out loud.

And the sooner everyone can say it out loud the better.

*and

[quote Waitwhat23]@DysonSphere indeed. Here in Scotland, it's the 'left wing' political groups who are determinedly dismantling women's rights. I'm now politically homeless and unable to align with any political party as I can't agree with either side. There's a very simplistic view of left wing=good, right wing=bad.[/quote]

I'm in Scotland feel exactly the same.

To think the opposite of what bad people think all the time would render one insane.

There are lefties who say the same thing and the reverse logic doesn't apply - that they agree on other things so must be correct on this one. It's almost as if everyone is looking for a justification to hate other people rather than actually engage with the positions held.

@DysonSphere indeed. Here in Scotland, it's the 'left wing' political groups who are determinedly dismantling women's rights. I'm now politically homeless and unable to align with any political party as I can't agree with either side. There's a very simplistic view of left wing=good, right wing=bad.

@Riapia

^He has a family member who is LGB and T.
Fuck me they must be really adaptable.^

Oh I see. Extremely adaptable!

You're engaging in a purity spiral. Up to you of course but it comes across as slightly deranged.

I do agree with a lot of what she said. I think Women aren't being allowed to be women anymore and saying so gets you harassed. I also don't understand why someone can say they're trans but keep all the bits that let them have a baby and then complain someone called them a Mum. In the same way a trans woman can compete and win by a margin but no one is allowed to say that's actually not a fair race to begin with.
The point is being made we can't have an opinion unless we have the same one. You aren't allowed to believe in the LGBT community without accepting everything they say even if you have a slightly different but not against it view.

To a degree, I think I can't disrespect someone's right to a different opinion and Chris (actor who plays weasley) is, I think, in a particularly difficult place, as he says he has a lot of family members who are LGBT.

He has a family member who is LGB and T.

Fuck me they must be really adaptable.

I'm no fan of his but every now and again he says something i'll agree with him on , just like the MeMeMe Markle incident

As such, a resistance to trans ideology (as it undermines a traditional precept of womanhood and women's safety) is part and parcel of the 'preservation of values' side of right wing politics. To the Right, it is straightforward logic with very little, if any, grey. Are they capitalising on it in the culture wars? Most definitely. But it is, and would always have been a natural subject and vehicle for them to use.

Indeed, many would say it is the left politically, who became so extreme it opened the door to where we are now, and who are turning themselves inside out trying to balance women rights and lgb rights with new and trendy trans rights. The same deplatforming tactics they used when defending these previous groups, they are using now. But many overlook that. It was alright then. Now suddenly it isn't. But still ok for those we don't agree with politically.

The 'right' gets a lot of the very same brush stroke criticism and frankly false spin by the media that women who speak out about this issue including JKR receive.

I always find it ironic that people who profess to see the propaganda when it's targeted at them don't see it in other contexts.

I think anyone who sees essential rights to women's safety as being on a 'wrong side' despite reading about the issue, is so consumed by their politics that they cannot see the basic morality anymore. Que in a magazine article about the athletic coach who resigned over the trans swimmer joining the women's team, people commenting 'she just wants to be on Fox TV' and 'this is just so she can grandstand for the right'

It used to upset me when people accused me of being right wing. I no longer care very much. I know who I am and I now think that outsourcing your opinions - be it to the left or the right or even to radical feminism - is foolish, reckless and ultimately dangerous behaviour.

I also find it amusing how often those who try and associate us with the far right - for believing sex matters - turn out to be the very same people who deny the existence of cancel culture.

Agreed Lennybenny Of course he's got a point and I happen to agree with him about JKR. As an adult I am able to separate out different views and agree with some of them, while disagreeing with others - even when expressed by the same person.
This demand that only people with approved views may speak is exhausting - and of course straight out of the tra playbook.

He's got a point. She's been absolutely trashed. They need to do some research and stop saying things to please other people.

People like this, as well as Trump, assorted Tories, GB news etc are trying to stoke the culture wars for political advancement. They are not natural allies of radical feminists and most of them give no more shits about women than they do about transpeople or anyone else. They’re opportunists.

He is a despicable human being. Full of hate and vitriol.

Having people like him on our side, does nothing to help the cause unfortunately. It's the same as Donald Trump Jr showing his support for JKR. It makes us look like we're 'in the wrong' and makes people think our view are automatically extremely right wing.

@ 08m 30^

Piers can be a right twat but he’s also right on a number of things (JKR, American gun laws) and he isn’t afraid to stand by his opinions even when it costs him a lot.