Thank you for this thread. I had a reply for @johnhuffam1812 also.
JohnHuffam1812
So yes, both sides of this debate are being unreasonable ( although what a transwomen is doing at a smear test ( although they can be administered by men ofc) I don't know.
I believe BlibbyBlobby refers to this incident.
extract
The NHS has apologised to a woman who was left “embarrassed and distressed” after a nurse with stubble and a deep voice was going to carry out her cervical smear test at hospital.
The woman requested a female NHS nurse to perform the intimate procedure but was dismayed when a staff member with “an obviously male appearance” greeted her.
When the patient pointed out the mistake, the nurse replied: “My gender is not male. I’m a transsexual.”
The woman declined to go ahead with the examination – given to women aged 25 to 49 every three years and every five years for women aged 50 to 64 – and complained about her treatment. She stressed her complaint was not about the nurse’s appearance or gender status.
It is understood the nurse self-identified as a woman but had not been employed on that basis. He saw the patient only because of a clerical error.
“[It was] weird where somebody says to you: ‘My gender is not male’ and you think: ‘Well, what does that even mean? You are clearly a man’, the woman toldthe Sunday Times. “[The nurse] had an obviously male appearance . . . close-cropped hair, a male facial appearance and voice, large number of tattoos and facial stubble.”
The patient said it was “bad enough for a fortysomething mother”, but the effect of such an incident on her 17-year-old daughter would have been much worse.
The patient has requested anonymity for herself and the clinic because of fears it or the nurse could be criticised. The appointment for was on September 16 last year in an NHS clinic run by the Central and North West London NHS Foundation Trust.
It said: “We apologised to this patient for the recording error and because the staff member accepted they didn’t manage the situation appropriately; the patient needed to feel listened to. Trust policy is to consider seriously all requests for clinicians of a particular gender.”
Meanwhile, the famous Ladies’ Pond on London’s Hampstead Heath will no longer be a haven preserved for women after a controversial ruling allowed men transitioning to be women to bathe there.
Regulars have complained in recent months that men who identify as women and wore female bathing clothes were using the pond. A spokesman for the City of London Corporation, which manages the lake, confirmed tothe Mail on Sundaythat men transitioning to women will be allowed to use the pond and the female changing rooms.
Julie Bindel, a feminist writer who has also been swimming at the pond for more than three decades, said: ‘It is totally unacceptable to allow men who identify as women, but who are otherwise male bodied and socialised as men, to be in a women-only space.”
inews.co.uk/news/health/nhs-woman-transgender-nurse-smear-test-114009
If this nurse was truly mistakenly asked to perform smears, this nurse should have raised the issue with a manager before they ever entered the room, pointed out that it was inappropriate and swapped with a female member of staff. They did not.
I wonder how many smear appointments this nurse took before encountering a patient who was confident enough to make a complaint.