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Kellie Jay on Talk Radio with James Max

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Mollyollydolly · 29/12/2021 12:32

Worth a watch. How much do men hate women who say 'no'. When speaking the truth is a revolutionary act.

twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476131289870778374

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GoatsAndBarley · 31/12/2021 18:36

The only people that should be having a say in this debate is women. What ever age they are. And if some women object to having their sex based protections removed then that's the end of it. No one gets to remove the safeguards and protections of others, just because they might feel ok with it. And misogynistic, deeply unpleasant hard of thinking men like James Max certainly doesnt get a say in it. And he doesn't get to speak for women.

Datun · 31/12/2021 18:34

I have children under 35, and they do not subscribe to it whatsoever.

And that's not just because of me. I have asked them about them and their friends.

They say that there is a certain cohort who do subscribe, but its not representative.

They say people keep quiet so they're not targeted.

Funnily enough, almost the exact same process as those in the over 35 group.

Unless there is genuinely an attitude that claims the under 35s don't understand biology.

Berkspolix · 31/12/2021 18:24

Apart from JKR no one has done more for women this year than Kellie-Jay.

Team domesticated zombie FTW!

KeflavikAirport · 31/12/2021 18:23

Well of course. Also, go to Kabul and as the average 25 year old if they know the difference.

ArabellaScott · 31/12/2021 18:22

@KeflavikAirport

when James Max said everyone under 35 believes TWAW, I would have fucking loved it if she'd said how do you know what age I identify as?
Yes, but the other question is - so what?! Why would we take for a more complete and knowledgeable response that of people under 35? Is he really suggesting we discount the knowledge of everyone over 35? On what fucking basis?!
KeflavikAirport · 31/12/2021 18:05

when James Max said everyone under 35 believes TWAW, I would have fucking loved it if she'd said how do you know what age I identify as?

Datun · 31/12/2021 18:02

@BattyOrange

For me, one of the most interesting parts about all this is the massive pushback that James Max is getting. From every quarter.

It's almost as though, having heard the words "men can't be women" and "no men in women's spaces" spoken out loud on the radio and repeated on the internet people (mainly women, I think) have jumped on a massive wave of courage to say they agree. And the more women see other women saying what they think the bigger the wave gets.
It warms my heart.

Yes!

Posie Parker is the little boy who is pointing at the emperor and saying, oh come ON, he's completely naked.

Suddenly all these people who thought there must surely, honest to God, be more to it than they understand, finally realise that nooo, there fucking isn't.

There. Really. Really. Isn't.

No wonder that woman has been chucked off every possible platform, targeted, doxxed, threatened (really, almost the worst threats you can imagine involving her children), and threatened, by the police, with arrest (for using the word castration).

They recognise her power.

And yes, she's a suicide blonde, who adores her husband and would die for her children, with painted nails and eyebrows totally on point.

It must be fucking killing them 🤣

Linguini · 31/12/2021 17:49

Is Ulrika on here?? Anyone know her??
She needs to know she's the star of NYE 2021 ⭐

Mollyollydolly · 31/12/2021 17:23

Sorry cross posted and sorry they spelt your name wrong amazing woman!

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Mollyollydolly · 31/12/2021 17:16

#Ulrika is now trending. The gift that keeps on giving.
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ArabellaScott · 31/12/2021 17:12

Has even India abandoned James?

Omicrone · 31/12/2021 17:10

Where are the TRAs coming out to support James Max?

I thought they would be all over this!

Omicrone · 31/12/2021 17:07

So many eye opening things on this thread, particularly:

-Men are baffled when a woman stands her ground, but are even more baffled by feminine, glamourous, 'beautiful' women who stand their ground and say 'no, I'm not having this'. It's so bizarre to watch! I agree that part of people's 'interest' in KJ is that to look at she is gender conforming, but her behaviour (ie. Steadfast in her views, no 'lady doubt', doesn't give a shit, will not budge) is very gender non-conforming. People, particularly men, find it difficult to get their head around that.

  • Men think that women are so inferior that any man who wants to be a woman must really believe that they are one. Otherwise why would they degrade themselves in such a way?
MrsMadderRose · 31/12/2021 17:04

Oh the homophobic gay panic argument. The bigoted, conservative homophobic panic that’s coming from all those gay people and feminists. Against the ideology that says being same-sex-attracted is bigoted and wrong Hmm

PronounssheRa · 31/12/2021 17:04

James Max "reflects" in a monologue

Has he explained what the 'darker truth' is that he alluded to in a previous tweet? Or was this just another tiresome attempt to smear women?

Imnobody4 · 31/12/2021 17:03

Good lord he's still intent on digging the hole he's in - will be reaching Australia soon.

Go Ulrika, you're a star.
twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476928399520280578?t=IEktHXqx3aRhRdBIU2lGtQ&s=19

Following his clash with Kellie Jay-Keen over 'sex based rights', Ulrika in York tells James Max: "The word woman is our word."

"If you say trans women are women, you are erasing our sex class."

@thejamesmax | @StandingforXX t.co/RKW8JWogiS

Omicrone · 31/12/2021 17:01

'Ulrika' is trending on Twitter!!!!

(Her name is Ulrike I think but Talk Radio spelt it Ulrika in their tweet, hence the other spelling).

Fantastic!

MrsMadderRose · 31/12/2021 16:55

So for James Max, can a man really really be a woman? Probably not, in as much as he immediately identifies who is male and who is females and treats them accordingly with respect, and not.

But he also knows that thinking TWAW is the right thing to think and anyone who doesn’t think it is it’s bad, wrong and bigoted. So he can only make sense of that by bringing a patriarchal “ladybrain” view of women to bear on the issue. Therefore, circularly, actual women, having ladybrains, aren’t even really qualified to comment.

Linguini · 31/12/2021 16:52

James Max "reflects" in a monologue...

mobile.twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1476483652322213893

Unfortunately he doesn't reflect, he in fact invokes gender ideology myth number 72
"Gender critical arguments are EXACTLY THE SAME as those arguing for Section 28 and the homophobic panic around gay people in the past"

and has nothing else to say on the matter.

If all you have is a bad analogy that doesn't reflect what women are actually saying right here and right now, you've lost mate.

And I don't know if it's my imagination but all of the top replies in his Twitter link above are backing KJKM.

MrsMadderRose · 31/12/2021 16:50

This is really interesting thinking about why some men/anyone thinks a man can literally be a woman or vice versa. It makes a lot of sense the idea that any departure from being a manly man makes you not a man. However I often think there’s another thing at play though perhaps it affects women more, or maybe both factors can work at the same time.

GC people and those who study it often point out that humans are quite good at telling what sex people are, and especially at spotting when someone is male, even when trying to pass as female. I think that’s probably a biological feature that helps us adjust our behaviour for our own safety, probably very ingrained. So I think most people do recognise others by their sex, despite what they may proclaim about gender. If they are invested in being woke, this upsets them and makes them feel bad as they feel they should 100% see and accept a TW as a woman, etc. So they overcompensate with the “TWAW” and condemning of others who won’t say that, in an attempt to deny and conceal that.

My ex is very much like this. He’s desperate to be woke and is a classic beardy arty wokebro. He has a TM colleague and it’s blindingly obvious that at a very deep level he sees this person as female - the way he patronises them, is slightly flirtatious, etc. He would NEVER treat a male the same way. But he bleats on and on about how this person is a man and how right they are about trans rights etc - including lapping up the lies about murder rates and all the rest of it. Because he has to overcompensate.

Likewise I think this is what can happen with the poor younger lesbians who end up having sex with male “lesbians”. The pressure to be woke in some circles is massive. They see a male, they don’t fancy that male, but they know that’s evil and wrong and a failing in them according to gender ideology, so they must overcompensate.

BattyOrange · 31/12/2021 15:46

For me, one of the most interesting parts about all this is the massive pushback that James Max is getting. From every quarter.

It's almost as though, having heard the words "men can't be women" and "no men in women's spaces" spoken out loud on the radio and repeated on the internet people (mainly women, I think) have jumped on a massive wave of courage to say they agree. And the more women see other women saying what they think the bigger the wave gets.
It warms my heart.

Linguini · 31/12/2021 15:05

JKR also looks rather fantastic. It drives them nuts doesn't it.

GrimDamnFanjo · 31/12/2021 14:37

@Mollyollydolly

I think one of the reasons Kellie-Jay makes men like James so angry is that she looks like a stereotypical beautiful feminine woman. Then she opens her mouth and says 'no', kind of tied in with the above discussion, the cognitive dissonance of the pretty woman who says 'No that's rubbish you're wrong' makes their heads explode.
Agreed! She's a wolf in a very glamorous sheep's clothing.
GrimDamnFanjo · 31/12/2021 14:35

Max was terrible. Huffing and puffing, droning on and on and then chucking a question out from his notes.
KJKM ran rings round him. He'd have been completely flattened if she'd been able to speak at any length.

Datun · 31/12/2021 14:25

For me, one of the most interesting parts about all this is the massive pushback that James Max is getting. From every quarter.

He's woefully behind the curve. And it shows.

His arguments and attitude have dinosaur stamped all over them. (Ironically).

This is what happens when no debate is lifted. You have to actually account for the unaccountable. And boy, does it show. The floundering is comical.

He actually said you can be born in the wrong body, and also you can't be born in the wrong body. Depending on who he was talking about. 🤣

And he wonders why people think he's a hopeless sexist.