Nancy Kelly and Christine Burns on Al Jazeera

Al Jazeera is a very peculiar TV station, it is owned by the Emir of Qatar but often gives air to organizations that are illegal in Qatar thus transmitting the sort of views that are rarely broadcast elsewhere in the Arab world.

I would not blame anyone for appearing but the gushing praise Nancy and Christine are dishing out makes them look a tight couple of pillocks

Stonewall list Qatar as one of the most homophobic countries in the world but I guess that doesn't matter to Nancy any more

I request my post be deleted because it was about Iran, where homosexuality is illegal but sex change surgery state-subsidised and encouraged. I'm not sure whether Al Jazeera broadcasts to Iran but the BBC in the past - 2014 and 2008 - has done features on the pressure in Iran for homosexuals to have surgery and if you read the long feature on the BBC's website from 2014, 'The gay people pushed to change their gender' there are some striking parallels to what's going on here now, though obviously in the West the societal pressures leading to it have come from a different direction.

Stonewall may as well go the whole way IvyTwines and promote holidays to Iraq with some "sex change" surgery thrown in.

The TRAs are invited on BBC etc but refuse due to their 'No Debate' policy.

I've been trying to think of the words I want to say and I'm struggling with how monumentally stupid it's is as the head of stonewall to give an interview to a network funded by a country which persecutes gay men and lesbians.

The many ‘guilt by association’ reminders are coming thick and fast I see. I saw last night that LGBA said that they would only agree to be on that channel if they could point out the issues within the regime, including the number of deaths associated with building the new stadium.

So, all posters who use the ‘right wing/far right/conservative /evangelical/ white supremist/ nazi’ trope will now stop repeating that trope? Because Christine Burns and Nancy Kelley (who has to be fair, made a mockery of other previously used tropes this year too) have ‘aligned’ themselves with who now?

Excellent. No debate was such a useful tool, wasn’t it?

It does seem that now everytime it happens, a brick in the foundations of their arguments crumbles. Whereas arguments against prioritising gender when sex counts get strengthened with more evidence being added to the archive, another court win, another male beating females at sport. Nancy Kelley is proving to be Stonewall’s greatest asset, I am sure.

Jaysus. They are really not minding their brand very well. Al jazeera does some fantastic journalism, and it is healthy to have a major international news outlet from outside the west. However, on LGBTQ issues it is madness for Stonewall to go on and not address the fact that gay people are executed in Qatar. This is the very thing they should be focusing their efforts on instead of trying to convince the world of gender woo woo. This is what a truly oppressed group looks like.

Is this what's known as "scraping the barrel?"

I couldn't see the youtube link mentioned in the OP as I'm not on twitter. There's another link to the interview here. Christine Burns transplains feminism with the help of a whole heap of straw men.

www.aljazeera.com/program/upfront/2021/12/24/what-is-behind-the-rise-in-transphobia-in-the-uk

Aside from the point the OP is rightly making, I found this utterly disingenuous from the leading questions of the interviewer, the bandying around of terms like transphobia and conversion therapy with no explanation or definition offered (one in seven people in the UK is transphobic apparently, wtf does that even mean?) to the casual disregard for women's concerns and traducing of women speaking out as 'not real feminists'. Add to that the annoying habit NK has of turning every statement into a question? I suppose with their 'no debate' strategy this is what Stonewall has been reduced to - thoroughly biased discourse broadcast on a channel funded by a regime that imprisons people and worse for the 'crime' of homosexuality. Not a good look.

It’s utterly shocking. They’re getting desperate now, aren’t they?