Nancy Kelly and Christine Burns on Al Jazeera

Well if you report to quoting the BBC to prove a point you have lost your case. Still waiting for the evidence of actual executions. Will.continue to report and publicise until. It is forthcoming. A tual numbers of deaths please.

Qatari LGBT people don't seem to think Qatar is a tolerant country.

www.hrw.org/news/2021/11/24/lgbt-qataris-call-foul-ahead-2022-world-cup

Not very welcoming to women either.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-59288177.am

@Awkwardy I suspect Nancy K is confusing highly educated with going to university.

I am waiting for the evidence of execution. That's the accusation. In the UK you Could be prosecuted for wearing green on a Tuesday ffs but nobody does. You have accused them of doing it, not having a law. So back it up now.

If a law exists it can be used. It is also possible to be imprisoned in Qatar for having a homosexual relationship.
A tolerant country does not have such laws on their statute book.

I will continue to question and publicise this accusation until evidence is in place.

That's not evidence and also doesn't prove the accusation that they execute people. It's quite a serious allegation to make on a public forum. Where is the evidence to back up this accusation?

In addition to the Penal Code provisions outlined here, Qatar operates Sharia courts in which it is technically possible for men who engage in same-sex intimacy to be sentenced to death.

I have also reported your post. It should be deleted or backed up with proof.

But why not? Isn't that the kind of place where they might want to create some level of credibility? Or create a dialogue?

You think this was broadcast in Arabic / within the borders of the ME countries?

This was purely an attempt, by Al J’s owners, to slap some pinkwash over Qatar’s deservedly appalling reputation on how their LGB community is treated.

Did anyone else spot Nancy's "women, more highly educated people are more likely to be supportive" line?

How does that square with all the highly educated, female Terfs you hate Nancy? Or are you just talking about people who 'identify' as highly educated?

Not lgb

Stonewall is a T org now but lgb after all.

Just remembered, interesting point.

Have seen a fair few pieces around.
About how good Iran is for trans rights.
Surgery available and v subsidised etc. Other yay stuff.

One I remember ended scratching head over weird so good on trans rights and so terrible on LGB.

I mean FFS.

That might well be relevant to stonewall on and them doing interview. Maybe.

I admit I haven't been looking out for if/how many etc bits on lgbtqi etc or the area that funds them. Which would be a help to me.

They cover meaty stuff from around the world.

Stonewall a whole interview feels v out of place.

Not seen it will watch.

A strange thing all round.

I watch Al Jazeera a fair bit.

They are really good for around world more, here BBC etc it's generally omg Syria! Give it a few days coverage. Then move on. The situation has not gone away. Updates? Omg few days and.. what's happened since?

In depth features on various topics. Good journalism imo. Good source for English language wider news.

But why not? Isn't that the kind of place where they might want to create some level of credibility? Or create a dialogue? The Arab world isn't made up of people who only think one thing, even in the most oppressive places. What media would it be appropriate to go on in terms of broadcasting in teh Arab world?

Not to say they accomplished making a good impression, it seems to me a wasted opportunity, but the problem wasn't the media platform.

I have been on these boards long enough to remember when Julia Long, Venice Allen and Posie Parker (and Megan Murphy?) went to Washington and the platform was provided by the right wing Heritage Foundation…..because none of the left wing think tanks etc would host them.

This set of a huge debate about were they right or wrong. Kathleen Stock was one of those who thought they were wrong.

If you want to get your message out you may need to make choices/compromises about the platform.

But Al Jazeera for a gay right organisation. Stonewall needs to give its corporate head a wobble.

I don't have an issue with SW or really any organization agreeing to do an interview with a major news network, even one in a country that is quite backwards in some ways, even related ways.

However I would hope those who like to accuse those on the other side of this issue of being "allies" to various entities they may speak to or have interviews with would now shut up about it.

SW is talking crap as usual, mind.

I've only been following this shit show in depth for about a year now. It seems every single new day provides another "WTF?" moment, but this really does take the biscuit.

This thread from Iseult White is spot on.

twitter.com/iseult/status/1475523364408147977?s=21