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Do you believe in biology?

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RVN123 · 22/12/2021 18:00

Just wondered if anyone actually believes in biology anymore?
Do you think we should lobby schools and universities to change their curriculums to include the new scientific facts?
E.g.
Men can become women
Women can become men
Genetics don't matter
Men can give birth
Men who give birth are not mothers
Sex is on a spectrum

etc.
Do you think we should be censored if we ever dare to speak about biology, even when we are not being derogatory towards anyone but just speaking biological truths?
Do biological truths even exist anymore?

To quote Homer Simpson, "'I'm the magical man, from happy land. I live in a gum drop house, on Lollipop Lane"...........

I'm being sarcastic.

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Cuck00soup · 22/12/2021 20:21

I am I the only one that is slightly concerned that this could happen?

HaroldMeeker · 22/12/2021 20:18

Ps OP, you're right. It's ludicrous that stating facts can get us deleted or banned. Almost like "truth hurts".

HaroldMeeker · 22/12/2021 20:16

Biology is a science, not a faith. It requires no belief. As a science, it develops as research is undertaken and new discoveries are made, so it does change over time as we learn more. Facts, not faith.

RVN123 · 22/12/2021 20:05

Just to be clear, I am being sarcastic.

I would like to know if MNHQ accept that biology is real and can therefore not be offensive, given that several discussions have been shut down today before they were barely started.

I would like to know what we can and cannot discuss.
I would like to know if stating facts found in any textbook is enough to have posts deleted.
I would like to know why we should accept the new religion without question, and when it IS questioned, why on a woman's forum in the SEX AND GENDER board, why these things cannot be debated.

It seems that biology does in fact have beliefs and opinions, and that we can opt in and out of them at will.

Angry does not even begin to cut it.
Put up and shut up wumben, wimpunds and woomuds!

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EmpressCixi · 22/12/2021 19:55

It’s not a religion there are no beliefs or truths in the science of biology.
Writing using terms like belief, truth, faith, exist is halfway giving in to the zealots who believe science is only a system of beliefs akin to religion and thus can be adjusted to make society feel better about itself.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/12/2021 19:51

I certainly do. No transwoman will ever have the privilege of my endometriosis and if they want to feel sorry for themselves over it that’s up to them.

hanka · 22/12/2021 18:59

My thinking is that if in a few hundred years’ time the future archaeologists excavate my skeleton (and maybe manage a dna sample) - what would they say I was - a man or a woman? Without anything else buried with me? Also, in a catastrophic/apocalyptic scenario if the future of a mankind is at stake- will I be providing the egg or the sperm? (actually neither, as it is, but will provide a friendly albeit hot-flushed menopausal advice 😁) as summerhillsquare noted, biology is working on us, not us on biology 🤷🏻‍♀️

EndoplasmicReticulum · 22/12/2021 18:20

As Grimchas said. The earth always did go round the sun even when nobody believed that.

Summerhillsquare · 22/12/2021 18:17

As I sit here suffering from perimenopausal symptoms, I can confidently say biology believes in me.

NeedsCharging · 22/12/2021 18:15

We all do it from animals and insects to fish and plants. Biology rules.

Grimchmas · 22/12/2021 18:11

Biology didn't give a shit if I believe in it or not. It just exists.

I don't believe we all have a magical fairy gender identity, though, if that helps.

Abhannmor · 22/12/2021 18:08

Perhaps we should petition schools to drop biology altogether. It makes no more sense than Astrology. This has been proved by experts like Owen Jones and Ellie Mae O Hagan

whachatalkinaboutwillis · 22/12/2021 18:03

I have asked a lot of people this in a very respectful and inclusive way over the last 5 years and have concluded almost no one believes you can change biological sex. However a lot of men this women are 'better with this sort of thing" and should accept both trans men and trans women as 'non men'.

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