Tom Daley Christmas message

Aha! They changed it quick

I've been popping on to check all day and it stood there all that time. Post goes up on MN and they change it in 5 minutes!

I’m shocked shocked I tell you that a successful gay male athlete who brought a baby hasn’t a clue about how female athletes feel with men self identifying into their sports

He’s a bellend

I'm not quite convinced that "there is no LGB without the T"

Neither is Tom, it would seem. According to the transcript, what he actually says is:

"There is no LGB with the T"

Another Christmas message I won't be listening to.

I commented on a news thread about transwomen in sport being unfair and got accused of homophobia ( by a woman! ) There are just too many not-very-bright people in the world. I told her to Google Lia Thomas :)

"Women’s sport seems to be further ahead than men’s. This year’s Olympics saw its first trans athletes competing. And Quinn was the first out trans Olympic medallist securing the Gold for the Canadian Women’s Soccer Team. The fact that they achieved this in the current climate of fear and panic around trans people, makes their achievements all the more impressive. There is no LGB with the T."

Why do you think that is Tom? Why aren't transmen making headways in men's sport like their stunning and brave sisters in women's sport. Why? What possible reason could there be?

I wonder if Tom ever thinks about what teams NB athletes like Quinn should play? What if Quinn was born with a penis and a male hormone profile? Does Tom still think they should play women's football? Or does it not affect Tom and Tom never wastes a second of his precious time to bother working it out?

Quinn is female

So many layers of pretence. The objections to transwomen in women’s sports are a result of anti-trans “fear and panic,” not rational objections to unfairness or to the integrity of women’s sports being undermined. Therefore people in their blind hatred must have equally objected to a nonbinary female, not on steroids, participating in women’s sports. Therefore Quinn’s achievement is “remarkable” and somehow more noteworthy than the achievements of their teammates.

What possesses a person to wrap himself up publicly in this many layers of bullshit? He has to know it’s all nonsense. And why is Channel 4 giving him a platform to spew it?

My alternative Christmas message…

Be nice - and I mean it.
Be kind - and I mean you lot who say this (but do the opposite).
Don’t try to steal other peoples rights - win your own.
Be neighbourly - take out someone else’s bins, or ask if they need anything from the shops when you go out.
Be considerate - don’t be the arse who parks their car over someone else’s drive.
Step away from social media - and always ask before you post ‘do I want my granny to see this? Will this bite me on the bum in a few years?’
Be generous - not in financial terms but with your time, patience and understanding.
Be self-conscious - we don’t want to hear your opinions on everything, saw you pose and pout next to your dads open coffin, cosplay concentration camp victims for social media likes/shares, do a silly, jaunty little til tok dance next to your sick baby in an incubator…
Be dignified - rise above the idiots
Send me chocolate…

remarkable achievements of trans athletes

Really?

Don't people talking about "remarkable achievement" in a sporting context usually mean some kind of outstanding athletic performance? What trans athletes is he thinking of - or is this one of the other meanings of "remarkable?"

He's made me sick ever since he bought a baby. I don't think there's any hope he has any empathy with women.

Male sportspeople need to stand up for women's sports. Until they do that, they can fuck off.
Daley Thompson has publicly made a stand. Has anyone else? Has Andy Murray, who stands up for women in so many ways?

I was hopeful that he was just going to support LGB people in sport, but no, no LGB without the T. Disgraceful that he won't admit the unfairness even though it must be clear to him. Why is he getting a platform to spout this anti-women propaganda? Infuriating, hope he loses a lot of support.

He's spot on about homophobia in football though, it would be amazing if a Premier League player would come out.

Meh, he's already got his own dubious human rights record - paying a woman to risk her life and health to provide him with a baby-to-order.

I'm not quite convinced that "there is no LGB without the T"