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UCL have left Stonewall

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Fenlandia · 16/12/2021 18:28

via the excellent Alice Sullivan on Twitter: twitter.com/ProfAliceS/status/1471535974777864195

The full statement:
www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2021/dec/ucl-and-stonewall-diversity-champions-programme-and-workplace-equality-index

This line in the statement made me cheer:
"UCL’s senior leadership team has accepted Academic Board’s advice about the fundamental need to uphold academic freedom and freedom of speech in an academic context, recognising that a formal institutional commitment to Stonewall may have the effect of inhibiting academic work and discussion within UCL about sex and gender identity."

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HollowTalk · 16/12/2021 23:40

Absolutely fantastic news and a bit of ammunition for me for our Christmas Day debate!

Clymene · 16/12/2021 23:31

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 yet another university to add to the list of possibles for my children. Hurrah!

Bellendejour · 16/12/2021 23:30

Hurrah!

DoubleTweenQueen · 16/12/2021 23:27

That is really significant - hurrah!!

catwomandoo · 16/12/2021 22:54

Marvellous news

SweetGrapes · 16/12/2021 22:25

Wouldn't expect anything less from UCL! Smile

Women's place UK and the 'Women's Liberation Special Interest Group' at UCL Institute of Education, held the spectacular "Women's Liberation 2020 Conference". It was amazing! Hope they can do another one.

Igmum · 16/12/2021 22:25

Yes yes YES!

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 16/12/2021 22:16

Awesome news!

quince2figs · 16/12/2021 21:58

My alma mater. So proud of UCL

vbhafjlb · 16/12/2021 21:13

Fucking LOL.

Bye Stonewall.

highame · 16/12/2021 21:04

I am so, so delighted with this news, had been feeling a bit powerless.

BorlandRd · 16/12/2021 20:33

UCL has a fairly new provost, so maybe he took one look at what was going on, listened to the reasonable voices inc people like professor Sullivan and put an end to all the nonsense that had been going on. It’s going to take a while for things to go back to normal though, more and more colleagues have added pronouns to their signature lately.

Megan1992xx · 16/12/2021 20:12

UCL like a beacon of light, there is hope for free speech and women after all!

Phobiaphobic · 16/12/2021 20:02

Hurrah!

VestofAbsurdity · 16/12/2021 19:47

Excellent statement no obfuscation or weasel words.

Coyoacan · 16/12/2021 19:36

Brilliant news

HerBigChance · 16/12/2021 19:20

@senua

Stonewall may have the effect of inhibiting academic work and discussion within UCL Wow! No weasely words about "not being value for money". Just tells it like it is. Well done UCL.
Well done indeed.
Eeve · 16/12/2021 19:08

Got both of my doctorates from UCL; feeling extremely proud tonight 👏🏼

Fenlandia · 16/12/2021 19:05

Apologies yetanotherusernameAgain

I was just so pleased to see UCL's stated commitment to academic freedom, and also reiterating their commitment to equity and inclusion for all

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crazyjinglist · 16/12/2021 18:52

Round of applause for their honesty and sanity!

yetanotherusernameAgain · 16/12/2021 18:52

The title of this thread is misleading: UCL 'left' Stonewall years ago. This announcement is that they have decided not to re-join the Diversity Champions Programme and the Workplace Equality Index.

UCL's Provost publicly supports free speech and the ability to 'disagree well' - on all subjects, not just this one. He wasn't solely responsible for this decision but it's a welcome indicator that both he and UCL are prepared to accept the existence of a plurality of views on a topic.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 16/12/2021 18:50

Magnificent!

UCL’s senior leadership team has accepted Academic Board’s advice about the fundamental need to uphold academic freedom and freedom of speech in an academic context, recognising that a formal institutional commitment to Stonewall may have the effect of inhibiting academic work and discussion within UCL about sex and gender identity."

Congratulations to the superb feminists at UCL who, I am sure, have been working towards this by providing evidence. No shrieking, no abuse. Just proven facts and solid research. Well done, sisters.

GrouchyKiwi · 16/12/2021 18:49

Excellent, and I love that they wrote the actual reason.

Megan1992xx · 16/12/2021 18:46

Good sense at last!

SirSamuelVimes · 16/12/2021 18:45

Blimey! Well done UCL. As senua says, no attempt at the value for money excuse.

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