Miller v College Of Policing

"Honey Badger" has an obsession with Maria MacLachlan too.

Here trolling a Canadian site that happened to mention the attack at Speakers Corner (see delightful invective in the comments):

"STAND WITH WOMEN"
September 7, 2018
stormhaven.blog/2018/09/07/stand-with-women/

Then several mentions on Maria's site

"Fuck some TERFs up"
13/09/2019
www.peaktrans.org/fuck-some-terfs-up/

"Rattling the Honey Badger’s cage"
28/04/2019
www.peaktrans.org/rattling-the-honey-badgers-cage/

"Trans activist bullies who “didn’t watch” my video about them hated it"
18/01/2020
www.peaktrans.org/trans-activist-bullies-who-didnt-watch-my-video-about-them-hated-it/

"Feminists vs Gender activists – a story of police bias: Part 3"
17/12/2021
www.peaktrans.org/feminists-vs-gender-activists-a-story-of-police-bias-part-3/

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@HazzaTheOwl - you must know about these already? I wondered if any of those grotesque messages that you posted screenshots of on Twitter had been sent to Maria?

Goodness knows how many socks that person has on Twitter, BTW. The story about the mate with a trans kid and an old man who's ex-army - that sounds awfully familiar.

Copyright was invented to protect content from being changed

Maybe that's why it was invented, but that's not the extent of legal protection now.

www.gov.uk/copyright

Copyright was invented to protect content from being changed, not to protect the wallet or anything else of the author. Archiving doesn't pose a threat to the 'sanctity' of the original content, quite the opposite in fact. I've always felt that if you upload your content onto a public square as the internet is, them it's fair game to essentially screen shot it.

But share tokens are ok? I know that’s not reproducing an article, but it’s still letting multiple non-subscribers read it for nothing.
It seems a very fine distinction!

I got a reply, quicker than expected- as I surmised, it's about copyright, which is fair enough. Proper journalism can't be done for nowt!

Sorry for the delay in responding. We don't automatically remove archived links but we tend to delete those which are essentially reproducing an article that's behind a paywall, for copyright reasons.

Me neither, it doesn't say anywhere in the guidelines that they aren't. I've seen a few cases where posts with archive links have been taken down temporarily while they check the link isn't going somewhere untoward, which I think is quite sensible. In fact I've reported that deleted post to ask about what guideline was broken and suggested they should clarify the guidelines. I assume the link was to the times piece? Did your post make that clear, ie that it wasn't obscure spam? Or maybe archive links are deemed to infringe copyright.

I'm not expecting a quick reply as it's the holidays but hopefully one will be forthcoming in due course.

Here's a sharetoken link

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rejoice-right-on-lunacy-common-sense-harry-miller-comment-vlm7xwtbt?shareToken=cffc3400252f9e4569c9156ef8ef0680

Rod Liddle talks about the Harry Miller ruling and the Scouts' apology to Maya in today's Sunday Times. Sorry, no share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rejoice-right-on-lunacy-common-sense-harry-miller-comment-vlm7xwtbt

Here's what he says about Maya (copyright prevents me from quoting the whole thing):

'More good news? In the same week that Mr Miller received his vindication, the Scout Association apologised to an assistant scout leader, Maya Forstater, after a two-year investigation into her, er, appalling behaviour. Ms Forstater’s crime was to have referred to a heavily bearded scout leader as “he” when this chap identified — not wholly convincingly, in my opinion — as “non-binary”. Forstater was charged, absurdly, with bringing the Scouting movement into disrepute, but the heirs to the decidedly odd, masturbation-obsessed Lord Baden-Powell have now conceded they got it completely wrong, and Forstater has been exonerated.'

There's another piece about Harry in the Times today

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/being-offensive-is-part-of-british-culture-says-free-speech-campaigner-harry-miller-7b065t0b2?shareToken=c13b6b06e501a705a1eda4e7ae193419

[quote ChristinaXYZ]College of Policing statement on the verdict (sorry if this has been posted earlier in the thread)

www.college.police.uk/article/court-appeal-hate-crime-guidance-ruling[/quote]
'Hate Crime Guidance Ruling' really? Is that a manipulative ploy? There is no crime involved!!!!

2 very good articles by the times.
Thanks for the share token

Two sharetokens for the Times.

Let people express their views, Priti Patel tells police:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aa08b470-62a5-11ec-b279-fa13aec304af?shareToken=df07631f4613dd5df798a64d465b935d

The Times view on non-criminal ‘hate incidents’: Defending Dissent:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d1475630-6283-11ec-ab46-99cae2b0f128?shareToken=3069d32be2604c65ea01fdd3e96ef587

College of Policing statement on the verdict (sorry if this has been posted earlier in the thread)

www.college.police.uk/article/court-appeal-hate-crime-guidance-ruling

The faircop twitter account gave the impression that they were the same person.

Unsavoury people.

I’m not clear either btw but Harry seems to be

Presumably the reason my comment was deleted was because it came close to speculating on Honey Badger's identity. But people can read the Roll on Friday post and comments and draw their own conclusions. (Is that OK?)

I'm still not clear about whether Mrs B and Honey Badger are the same person.

Well, our other favourite dog-rough well-ard trans Scouser firmly denies all knowledge…