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Denmark's former immigration minister is JAILED for ordering asylum seeking couples to be separated if one was a minor in a bid to stamp out child marriage

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FreeBritnee · 13/12/2021 19:47

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10305175/Denmarks-former-immigration-minister-JAILED-ordering-separation-asylum-seeking-couples.html

So they’re jailing women now for safeguarding children. I suppose we knew it was just a matter of time.

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Antsgomarching · 14/12/2021 10:28

Even for kids with a small age difference you have to consider whether either one of them (but primarily the girls) had a say. I think in syrian camps girls were being married off as they were then seen as protected as a married woman. Ultimately we don’t believe in the UK that a child can fully consent to marriage.

I imagine some of the girls were happy to have some breathing space form a husband not of their choosing and the possibility of exiting a marriage. Womens prospects from more traditional societies are drastically curtailed upon marriage, can I go to uni, can I get a job etc.some of these girls would need their husbands, in-laws consent. I wouldn’t want that, if i had left syria and landed up in a society like denamrk damn right I’d want a life of my own and I’d want what Danish women have,

I have no idea of whether she deserves to be in prison but i agree with the policy. I come from a background where arranged marriage was normal for a long time (not so much now) men wield enormous power within their families.

FreeBritnee · 14/12/2021 10:12

Last sentence was shit but you get my thoughts.

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FreeBritnee · 14/12/2021 10:11

@FatCatThinCat

I thought the problem was that they weren't applying discretion when circumstances deemed it necessary. So they were seperating families, eg 17 year old with a baby would be seperated from her 18 year old husband. Also the motivation wasn't protecting child brides it was the far right punishing refugees for daring to seek asylum.
Assuming all of that is true, and it absolutely might be. Would it be the equivalent of Priti Patel bringing in legislation to, I don’t know, force those who come into the country and claim asylum to have their teeth checked for age before they could be processed. Then labour gaining power down the line and imprisoning her down the line for those actions?
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FatCatThinCat · 14/12/2021 09:14

I thought the problem was that they weren't applying discretion when circumstances deemed it necessary. So they were seperating families, eg 17 year old with a baby would be seperated from her 18 year old husband. Also the motivation wasn't protecting child brides it was the far right punishing refugees for daring to seek asylum.

FreeBritnee · 14/12/2021 09:03

I was hoping that it was an interesting story to dissect, but perhaps covid is dominating all conversations at the moment.

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NZGC · 14/12/2021 07:53

I wasn’t sure whether I agreed with you or not OP but much of the reportage does seem determined to shape the narrative.

The NYT’s headline is she was prosecuted for separating ‘underage couples’ which seems especially egregious. The girls were aged 15-17 the boy/men 17 - 32. Denmark’s age of marriage is 18.

As far as I understand she was prosecuted (as it relates to the issue of separating couples) for applying the policy in the general rather than interviewing the couples and deciding individually.

It does seem remarkable that media organisations will not acknowledge (and worse hide) that there may be issues with underage girls being forced into marriage in their coverage of this.

KimikosNightmare · 13/12/2021 21:54

It's not quite as straightforward as OP is making out.

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/13/danish-ex-minister-inger-stojberg-given-jail-sentence-for-separating-couples-seeking-asylum

FreeBritnee · 13/12/2021 20:47

@Bwix

I think that’s not the whole story - I was astounded by the headlines but I think the actual problem was her misleading a committee.
I suspect you’re right but I’d be interested to know the full story and whether a woman has been targeted over an equally culpable male.
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FreeBritnee · 13/12/2021 20:45

My understanding is that in Denmark you are not allowed to be gender critical or even discuss gender critical issues in the privacy or your home. It falls under a hate crime and you can be prosecuted for it.

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Bwix · 13/12/2021 20:42

I think that’s not the whole story - I was astounded by the headlines but I think the actual problem was her misleading a committee.

ArabellaScott · 13/12/2021 20:41
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FreeBritnee · 13/12/2021 20:21

I don’t agree with that either but you know what I found interesting? The notion that a left wing government is imprisoning someone from a previous right wing government under the guise of fascist legislation that is was/is unlawful.

Sets a very worrying precedent doesn’t it?

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Binglebong · 13/12/2021 20:01

Awful. I don't agree with making immigrants give up the dew valuables they have (I assuming it is small amounts) but am right with her on this.

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