And just like that - females squeamish at male public masturbation

She had a very short lived relationship with a lesbian called Maria. They broke up because Sam didn't want to commit. It was amicable and one of her better relationships.
Yes, I think it was Charlotte who did the power lesbians thing.

Or am I getting mixed up with Charlotte and the Power lesbians?

I miss the old SATC but I enjoyed this weeks episide. Especially Anthony. Until they make him see the light.

[quote WorriedMumsDontSleep]www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-does-tv-still-hate-middle-aged-women-sgt5m9bs9?shareToken=464adc2a2a58fad4f07a147fec22f64b[/quote]
From the article:

And Just Like That is more than merely bad. It appears to have been made by someone who hates Sex and the City, everyone who ever watched it and all women over the age of 40. This is very strange, because the people who made And Just Like That are in large part the people who made Sex and the City

It is not very strange. The men who write the series don't care for women who have aged past "hotness". Who was the critic who wrote that SATC was like "gay men playing Barbies"? You don't see 40+ Barbies.

Oh god it's awful. I agree with everything everyone's saying. I said te same in the tv section. I've only seen episode one and I don't know whether to bother watching the rest. It's basically making fun and putting down the target audience with no jokes and is mean spirited.

I wouldn't expect an evenhanded treatment.
I expect it will pan out like an extended version of Butterfly, with added designer shoes.

@WorriedMumsDontSleep I read that article but if the show didn't have nods to these issues it would be branded tone deaf, out of touch etc. They can't win.

Yes, the misogyny of it is rather obvious when you consider male homosexual relationships were in the mainstream in their own right much before women's.

I enjoyed both episodes

I thought they were trying to show how the ladies now felt out of touch but also there was a bit of side eye if that makes sense eg the dj was hitting the woke button to caveat everything that could possibly be offfensive.

Yeah. Willow and Tara were a few years before SatC ended as Buffy ended before SatC. But I think particularly for a show specifically about sex, it was too big a leap for an established show. Willow and Tara's sex life was implied, even compared to the other sexual pairings on Buffy. The most explicit they ever got was in the musical episode with "you make me complete, you make me com............." As Tara goes down and Willow levitates. Which was extremely wink, wink, nod, nod.

Before The L Word, women having sex with women as an explicit plot point in a show about women having sex in and out of relationships didn't happen. And when it did happen, it had to be on a show specifically about that rather than a risk on an established show. Gay men had gained coolness. And mainly straight women kissing for male gaze and edginess was popular. But women getting everything they needed from each other was not really something we got to see much of.

From Buffy the vampire slayer

There were lesbian kisses in series in the 90s but Willow and Tara were the first serious couple I believe. That was possibliy into the late noughties though, so satc was still going probably.

The original series also had the story where Charlotte sort of pretended to be a lesbian so she could hang out with some lesbians.

I can see why the series wasn't ready at the turn of the century, to tackle a proper emotional romantic/sexual between one of the main cast and a woman. Did the series end before shows like The L Word? But I would have liked to have seen it done properly now. However it seems we missed our window between a proper relationship between too women being too risque then and two passe now. Seems like 2008 to 2015 was all we got!

I find it odd they didn't explore that in the original satc. The only lesbian storyline I remember was Samantha and the artist, which mostly focused on female orgasm. Fine, but it lacked the depth that a Miranda storyline would have had, seeing as she tended to have longer term partners and her chief dynamic was balancing love, ambition and work. I think there was a lot of scope for finding a deep connection in a lesbian relationship that supported her success.

I wouldn't have minded seeing the Miranda discovers she's bisexual later in life story. Because that isn't massively uncommon. But y'know, only if she'd actually found herself attracted to a woman who acknowledged herself as a woman!

I wish I had been wrong.😞
I may still watch for Anthony who will be my new favourite character. At least until his reeducation.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/why-does-tv-still-hate-middle-aged-women-sgt5m9bs9?shareToken=464adc2a2a58fad4f07a147fec22f64b

I’m fucking out in that case

How FUCKING annoying!

My prediction is Charlotte is worried about puberty blockers and is told they are just a little pause (Harry possibly supplies a new name for Rose, perhaps the boy's name they had picked out already, and tells Charlotte it's fate/no big deal)

As predicted, Charlotte's daughter does not identify as a female. (The show underlines and signposts its plot points so much you don't need to be a psychic to figure out what happens next.)

So.. do we see Charlotte take Rose to the doc for puberty blockers or T? Will Rose be called Kai, or perhaps Ash, or Kayden?

Fuck, I just saw this on Twitter:
twitter.com/anonacademic_uk/status/1471497994335768578?s=21

Seems all predictions were correct re the trans kid.

[quote Yeswhatno]@NandorTheRelentless
I watched the original series, and it was witty and funny, and intelligent, and talked about important issues

genuine question:
What were the important issues?

I was pretty young when I watched and haven’t seen that many episode and all I can remember is fashion, shoes, hair and sex.
So very shallow show what I remember.[/quote]
There were many serious issues..breast cancer, testicular cancer, infidelity, relationships to name a few

Ohh and I predict Carries infamous tutu will play some role in the gender identity plot.

Whether she concludes she's cos on finding it, or whether said gender non conforming child takes the piss, I'm not sure on.

Other items of clothing that could feature are Charlotte's veil(probably will be cut up in a fit of rage) and Miranda sadly mourning that she can't get into her skinny jeans now that bootcut is back in.

I propose a game of bingo:
My prediction is (Miranda) asking Charlotte (with tears in her eyes) Would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son! (Bonus points of Charlotte is wearing a teadress or forcing her child to try something frilly on in a boutique).