"All Trans and Non-Binary Kids Need and Deserve Access to Puberty Blockers""

there are plenty of individuals who feel that their gender identity does not quite conform in one direction or the other. Gender nullification surgery can enable non-conforming patients to enjoy a relatively smooth genital area.

So removal of external genitalia, and for females - so casually glossed over in one of the links, a hysterectomy- is considered a proportionate treatment for people whose 'gender identity' does not quite conform in one direction or the other? bloody hell.

Agree this is FGM and needs to be banned. It's extreme body modification, not a medical procedure. And we need to stop encouraging the ideas underlying it, that it's possible to have no sex.

Ttexulansic has a video on it. Don’t watch whilst eating.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NM6oh87eulo&t=20s&has_verified=1

I have no qualms in saying this should be banned, like any other form of FGM. It’s actually much worse than ‘classic’ FGM, as that doesn’t (intentionally at least) sterilise the victim.

That poor poor child. And how evil of all these pundits, politicians and activists to deprive these children of the help they so desperately need and push them towards this because it suits their own political agenda

Someone please, please educate me on this.

What is phallus-preserving vaginoplasty though?

As far as I know, a vaginoplasty is the construction of a neo-vagina/vaginal vault.

I quote, from a different surgeon.

During a vaginoplasty surgery, a surgeon creates both an outer and inner vagina by using skin and tissue from a penis.

Your surgeon will use skin from the penis and scrotum to build theinner and outer labiaof the vagina

Your surgeon will create anew opening for the urethra(so you can urinate). Your surgeon will use tissue from your foreskin to build thenew opening of the vagina(also called the introitus).

healthcare.utah.edu/transgender-health/gender-affirmation-surgery/vaginoplasty.php

So the surgeon that offers the "nullification" procedure also offers a procedure for biological males who want a penis and a neo-vagina?

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]The Overton window keeps shifting.

Genital nullification surgery is getting slowly more normalised, too.

twitter.com/saintrizla/status/1468956853681803270?t=FI6VgcGoQ8Rw7lnRLM-gLA&s=19[/quote]
This is horrendous

They treat it like it's as trivial as having your ears pierced. Here's your latest accessory. A flat chest and action man genitals. Available in pink or blue or striped to suit.

🤮

Here is another that does "nullification".

www.alignsurgical.com/non-binary/nullification/

While many patients might be interested in transitioning into either a male or female identity, there are plenty of individuals who feel that their gender identity does not quite conform in one direction or the other. Gender nullification surgery can enable non-conforming patients to enjoy a relatively smooth genital area.

Nullification creates a relatively continuous and mostly unbroken transition from the abdomen down into the genital area, enabling gender non-conforming patients to enjoy a body that looks closer on the outside to the way they feel on the inside.

^AM I A GOOD CANDIDATE?&

TheWorld Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH)has standards of care in place that require patients over eight-teen have two letters from mental health providers, stating their readiness for surgery. Clients must be taking hormones and be non-smokers.

Phallus-preserving vaginoplastyhas been shown to have a positive, lasting benefit for transmen and nonbinary individuals who desire non-standard gender affirmation surgery.

&If you’re interested in this procedure, or one of the other non-standard gender surgeries we offer, we recommend reaching out to us and setting up your consultation. There are numerous ways that we can allow you to enjoy the gender identity that you prefer.^

Reach out and set up your consultation, and we’ll learn about your gender identity, and help you by developing a surgical plan that unites your outward appearance with your personal gender identity. Set up your consultation, and learn more about what we can do for you today.

This just gets worse and worse. How can so many people not see the harm?

Re the nullification surgery - if you’re female, how do you wee? It sounds alarmingly similar to fgm.

Unless the idea is to hold them in a prepubertal (but still sexed, even if immature) state

Guess what?

jme.bmj.com/content/46/11/743

I opened this thread to post this link. I am creeped out by the specific inclusion of “non-binary” in the quote.

That interesting paper, queering medical ethics on the topic of “ongoing puberty suppression” for nonbinaries, even raises, albeit declines to answer, the question of what kind of person would be interested in a sexual relationship with a permanently puberty-suppressed partner.

thinkingaboutLangCleg

It's real, sadly.

cranects.com/non-binary-surgery/

gender-expansive, which describes people whose gender identity is broader than the traditional gender norms.

So someone who doesn't like the cages of gender stereotypes but who thinks an adequate solution is to make their own cage bigger, rather than getting rid of the damn things?

So often when I see ‘medication’ written in America I read it as a euphemism.

They seem hell bent on turning the next generations into pulp.

Yes, that poor young woman wanting her genitals erased. Surely it’s a fantasy though? There’s no way it could be done?

Is there a name for adults with zero qualifications in medicine or child psychiatry pontificating about medicating children resulting in sterilisation because of their adolescent confusions/ mental health issues?
And as for that poor 19 year old seeking safety from being assaulted and thinking that removing their genitalia is the solution.

How do we protect children from people like this?