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MON THE BARONESS JENKIN!!!

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ArabellaScott · 10/12/2021 18:40

Yas! Smile

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fournonblondes · 10/12/2021 22:29

Bravissima 👏👏👏👏👏

AdaFuckingShelby · 10/12/2021 22:27

Woop woop. Well said. I now identify as a biological realist Grin

Rightsraptor · 10/12/2021 22:08

I've never heard of race realism. Going to look it up.

BlackForestCake · 10/12/2021 22:07

No, it isn't at all. But the phrases are too similar.

MichelleScarn · 10/12/2021 21:52

Posted before I saw forests post.
Is it? Is saying biology is real akin to racist supremacy?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/12/2021 21:51

@BlackForestCake

No, don’t start saying “biological realism”.

It is too close to “race realism” which is a euphemism used by pseudoscientific racists.

It would be a propaganda gift to the T/MRA.

Damn. That’s a good point.
MichelleScarn · 10/12/2021 21:46

Biological Realist here.

BettyFilous · 10/12/2021 21:44

That was a good speech.

BlackForestCake · 10/12/2021 21:18

No, don’t start saying “biological realism”.

It is too close to “race realism” which is a euphemism used by pseudoscientific racists.

It would be a propaganda gift to the T/MRA.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 10/12/2021 21:12

Biological realism it is then.

LightningJenny · 10/12/2021 21:05

This is just fantastic!

[On another note I'm new here - I have been sitting at home increasingly worried I am some kind of bigot, and finding a place where people openly and sensibly express what I have been thinking for (months? years!?) is such a relief. You are all amazing!]

Cuck00soup · 10/12/2021 20:56

Well isn't she the dogs bollocks?

samsalmon · 10/12/2021 20:56

Amazing. There is hope.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 10/12/2021 20:41

Yes please to biological realist. I'm one of them.

oxalisRed · 10/12/2021 20:39

@LonginesPrime

I really like the term "biological realist" as an alternative to "gender critical" - it shifts the focus to exactly where it should be and makes a much stronger statement.
Oooh yes, I'm going to use biological realist from now on. Cuts to the point.
BrideofAberdeen · 10/12/2021 20:39

Thanks both, I am just at 1103 and had one Kathleen Stock mention, might skip through to 1140. Really interesting.
Thank you so much for posting

Tobogganist · 10/12/2021 20:28

Brilliant

Motorina · 10/12/2021 20:27

@LonginesPrime very much agree.

In theory I favour democracy. Then I compare the caliber of people in the House of Lords, and Bojo and his mob, and I wonder...

LonginesPrime · 10/12/2021 20:24

I really like the term "biological realist" as an alternative to "gender critical" - it shifts the focus to exactly where it should be and makes a much stronger statement.

NecessaryScene · 10/12/2021 20:12

Here's a manually-fixed direct link. Looks like Hansard's "copy link" button is buggy. (Insert grumble about it being a sign of the times - didn't used to have this problem back in the 19th century Envy).

hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2021-12-10/debates/E1700B22-1B3B-431C-BD6A-ACB5EA258188/FreedomOfSpeech#contribution-A3B3EFC2-865A-40DC-87B7-CC28CE96D1CA

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ArabellaScott · 10/12/2021 20:07

hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2021-12-10/debates/E1700B22-1B3B-431C-BD6A-ACB5EA258188/FreedomOfSpeech

Sorry, yes that didn't work, did it?

Scroll down to 11.40 am

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BrideofAberdeen · 10/12/2021 20:06

Please could someone help me find it on Hansard, I can’t get the link to work. Thank you.

Helleofabore · 10/12/2021 20:02

Bloody brilliant!!!

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ArabellaScott · 10/12/2021 19:47

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

Are there any Lib Dems or Greens standing up for women's rights like this?

Even in devolved parliaments?

Greens: Shahrar Ali.

Lib Dems: Baroness Sarah Ludford.

There may be more, those are two who spring to mind.

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SigourneyHoward · 10/12/2021 19:36

There were quite a few references to Kathleen Stock, JKR, LGB Alliance and others in the speeches by several members of the HoL - the link from @ArabellaScott is worth a perusal