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Choreographer Rosie Kay forced to resign from her own company

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peonyred · 09/12/2021 08:10

This is a share token so you can read the story. Another Janice Turner article. Simone suggested Crowdfunding for her new company.

Rosie Kay: I resigned from my own dance company after I was accused of transphobia

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3935bc4a-5858-11ec-a3f7-65d2d47c7fea?shareToken=d4efe0ddb11ede84d52835a0a02d70e3

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Zandathepanda · 09/12/2021 10:05

It would be interesting to hear the non binary female explain their reasons and how they feel after reading that article.

Manderleyagain · 09/12/2021 10:00

I found a link to her crowd funder on twitter. Won't link obviously. The details given about the events are below. Sounds like the coversations were more specifically about trans women using women's spaces, and there's a bit more about the investigation.

"The chain of events that has led to this began with a party in my own home four months ago with dancers during rehearsals for the company’s production of Romeo + Juliet. Debate turned heated as we talked about the differences between sex and gender and whether transwomen should be admitted to women’s spaces such as refugees for victims of domestic violence. I believe in sex-based protections and women’s sex-based rights. Women’s rights and freedom of expression are a cornerstone to my artistic expression. A complaint to the Board by one of the dancers at the party – a young political activist – led to a four-month investigation by my board which it has botched, first exonerating me, then, when that led to more complaints, opening a second investigation which still hasn’t concluded. I cannot endure this humiliation any longer."

The weird thing from the article was that they were planning a tribunal led by an hr firm? Sounds weird.

She wants to rebuild her career

"After a bit of a break and recovery time, I plan to continue my research and make a new dance adaptation of Virginia Woolf’s novel Orlando. I will also continue to work on my autobiography, which became my most recent solo show Adult Human Female, and I will continue with performing solo works while I build a new company. My new company will be totally artist-focussed, with a lighter structure that lets me, as the creator, stay in control."
(I actually wonder if adult female human is a typo as she had a recent show called adult female dancer)

broadwaybaby.com/features/rosie-kay-adult-female-dancer/2271

It's not very clear what the fundraiser is for other than 'legal fees'. Is she suing them, or is it just legal fees in extracting herself from the charity and setting up a new company or whatever.

Artichokeleaves · 09/12/2021 09:59

That poor woman. Modern McCarthyism.

And note needs to be taken that if you make certain employment choices you are opening yourself up to very high risks and a need to watch your back at every step. Which isn't really a positive thing for anyone involved. India Willoughby noted more than a year ago that job opportunities were drying up for them because of behaviour like this rendering people extremely wary of getting it wrong and then being punished in this awful way.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/12/2021 09:47

I'd like to see the tip toe egg shell dance choreographed! With the naked emperor sat firmly on his throne in the middle.

Oh yes!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/12/2021 09:47

That would be awesome. Her work sounds amazing.

IntermittentParps · 09/12/2021 09:33

@MrsColon

Wow, I hope Rosie claps back with a brilliant feminist piece of choreography - I'd go and see that.
Me too. She sounds like a fighter and I think she'll find an appropriate response.
MrsColon · 09/12/2021 09:29

Wow, I hope Rosie claps back with a brilliant feminist piece of choreography - I'd go and see that.

PaleGreenGhost · 09/12/2021 09:15

@Ereshkigalangcleg

These type of people aren't satisfied until they can have everyone tip toeing on eggshells around them. It's controlling, abusive and pathological.
I'd like to see the tip toe egg shell dance choreographed! With the naked emperor sat firmly on his throne in the middle.
PaleGreenGhost · 09/12/2021 09:13

Fuuuuuuck!

(Almost) speechless. Privileged little twats*. Thinking of all the artists and dancers and organisations who aren't lucky enough to secure arts Council funding.

I'd never heard of Rosie Kay. Her work sounds extremely interesting. Her description of touring 5 Soldiers within army baraks is moving. Isn't this what art is supposed to do? Bridge divides? Communicate feelings that are hard to express? Notice things that go unnoticed? Reach different types of people?

Who wants to see desperate, dry, virtue signalling to the powerful people in their art? We've got politicians for that.

*I know those dancers aren't really just privileged little twats. They're also from a generation that has been lied to and thrust head first into the digital world like canaries.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/12/2021 09:10

These type of people aren't satisfied until they can have everyone tip toeing on eggshells around them. It's controlling, abusive and pathological.

IntermittentParps · 09/12/2021 09:06

Breathtaking. Apart from anything else, what madness is this: 'filed a further complaint about the party, saying Kay’s use of the words “penis” and “vagina” amounted to sexual harassment.' Hmm

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/12/2021 08:38

Another thread about this Janice Turner Interview with Rosie Kay www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4421797-Janice-Turner-Interview-with-Rosie-Kay

AlfonsoTheUnrepentant · 09/12/2021 08:37

My sympathies to Ms Kay. What happened to her is outrageous.

KittenKong · 09/12/2021 08:32

Maybe all that dressing up and being in character had muddled their thinking.

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KittenKong · 09/12/2021 08:28

I read this this morning. Absolutely outrageous. These little ratbags.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 09/12/2021 08:24

This is sickening.

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