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Janice Turner Interview with Rosie Kay

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Igneococcus · 09/12/2021 06:29

Rosie resigned from her own dance company after accusations of transphobia:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3935bc4a-5858-11ec-a3f7-65d2d47c7fea?shareToken=b7d8e07dfee7cb3f54df6487999e9a82

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Chrestomanci3 · 09/12/2021 07:57

Interesting comparisons in Times articles today. There is the story of the golfer, cleared of sexual assault because they could not control their actions. Contrast this with the story of the choreographer, who has been forced to leave their job after being accused of sexual harassment for using the words penis and vagina. Hmm, do you think you can guess which of these people is male and which is female?

Lordamighty · 09/12/2021 07:55

Only women seem to be hounded out of their careers, it’s almost like this whole movement is based on misogyny.

Popuptent · 09/12/2021 07:42

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OperationDessertStorm · 09/12/2021 07:22

That’s chilling. She gave them an amazing opportunity, training, a platform to perform, invited them to her own HOUSE for a social gathering, treated them like grown ups and equals in conversation and they’ve just shit all over her. For what? Their performance got cancelled and now they’re all out of a job.

The moral high ground they’re standing on is actually a pyre of women’s careers.

Datun · 09/12/2021 07:12

@SweetGrapes

Amazing isn't it. We can see history in the making. Women forced out their own creations, Harry Potter fans separating out JK from HP.

This is how women have never had their names on anything down the centuries. The reasons may have been different but the effect is the same. It's so easy to do even today when women have rights!

This. It's identical to the historical appropriation of women's success. Erase them, pretend it's not theirs.

I so hope Rosie takes this forward legally. We need these awful cancellations officially outlawed.

If she has a garden, I will dig my arse off.

Enough of this shit.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 09/12/2021 07:08

Anyone know of a way of sending a card?

jay55 · 09/12/2021 07:07

This is so frustrating, choreography is such a male dominated area, and male choreographers have used their role to sexually assault dancers(of both sexes) for decades.

Well done to Rosie for not going quietly, and shame on the dancers and trustees for creating this situation.

SweetGrapes · 09/12/2021 07:06

Amazing isn't it. We can see history in the making. Women forced out their own creations, Harry Potter fans separating out JK from HP.

This is how women have never had their names on anything down the centuries. The reasons may have been different but the effect is the same. It's so easy to do even today when women have rights!

BettyFilous · 09/12/2021 07:02

@Livelifeinthebuslane

I've not heard of Rosie but that's a terrible story, she must feel so betrayed. Good write up by Janice.
I agree 100%
PermanentTemporary · 09/12/2021 06:52

That feels like two worlds running smack into each other. A total generational shift that has left a chasm of understanding.

Obviously I'm on one side of that generational chasm and it's quite terrifying to see. To me it looks like denial and resentment. And misogyny.

Igneococcus · 09/12/2021 06:50

I've never heard of Rosie either, dance isn't really something I pay much attention to, but this is a shocking story. I'm glad it's on the frontpage of Tol.

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PamDenick · 09/12/2021 06:46

Oh brave new world…

Livelifeinthebuslane · 09/12/2021 06:44

I've not heard of Rosie but that's a terrible story, she must feel so betrayed. Good write up by Janice.