If a general election was called, who would you vote for?

I'd have to spoil my ballot. Again.

I'm not happy doing it, but I really feel I have no other choice.

Labour with a heavy heart. My suspicion is that, once faced with actually implementing their policies in gender, they’ll see what the issues are.

Anything to get the current government out.

@BusBusBus I agree I am also concerned at removal of right to protest, human rights and judicial review.

I’d spoil my ballot, we have an absolutely awful Labour MP who is very much an enthusiastic TWAW advocate and outright refuses to listen to women or take on board our concerns. He’s the Ur-white beardy bloke.

Voted Labour all my life. Next time Tory. No question. Whatever I think on other issues, sex and gender is just too important at this moment.

I'd vote for who ever was most likely to get our local tory out. I live in a very safe seat so o dont think it will help.
I care about the big women issue but it amazes how people but arent fussed about how the government are trying to erode one of the main checks and balances against them, like judicial review and even protests for that matter. Being dramatic we are slowly sliding into a fascists state where they dont even want judges to point out if they do something illegal. And i cant see that a facist state has been good for women either.

I'd vote for whoever could beat the Tory if it were marginal, and whoever I fancied if it were not.

SDP

I could never vote for the Tory party after what they have done.

They are all crooks and liars

I'm in a plaid stronghold, therefore I'd vote conservative as a protest vote against gender ideology. If I lived somewhere where my vote might actually count I'd have to think harder on my decision.

In very blunt terms, the Tories are greedy, corrupt and incompetent. But Labour are cowards and bullies, and that's worse. Navel gazing delusionals to boot. If there were more Rosie Duffields I could vote Labour.

But there aren't.

And the fringe parties are fringier than they've been for decades.

So, Tory, if there was a general election tomorrow. Locally, I could still vote Lib dem.

And I know it's important to point out that women are, well. Often really awful.

But having answered your v short comment, at some length.

I realised that your comment was totally unrelated to my actual posts. This is general election thing. MPs. Individuals up for election in specific areas.

Anyway you've pulled me off the point!

This is about voting in GE.

I quite clearly said. Read the blurb about the candidates. Have a Google. If have voting record take s look.

Remember primarily about constituency do you agree with their priorities etc on that.

Having done the reading, and excluded the ones you won't vote for. Left with more than one option. If there is one, pick the woman.

It's a SUGGESTION! Not an order!

And I also clearly said if the woman has views you feel are awful. Then obviously. Don't vote for her.

Of course plenty men nice and plenty women awful.

Plenty women seem to work against women and some men work for women and other groups who get shit.

In the end though. On this. No way at population level.

1. Is gender > sex anything but a very very niche view
2. Men think nonsense and understand why no good for women/girls. Because it's bloody obvious. But population level. Not really anything to do with them.

Expulsion from labour over this. Plenty of women. Maybe a few men can't remember been going on for ages now. But certainly plenty of women.

Online majority of those arguing for sex> gender are women.
While a lot of the men saying stfu are men with zero skin in the game.

Of course online not real life.
In real life-

When it's come up (not introduced by me!) the women have either been not aware of facts however plenty have been and they were angry, outraged.

Men either don't know anything, some know a bit, some all about it. The ones who knew all about it had been told by female partners who were livid and talking about it at home.

Also blokes talking in pub. Usually taking piss out of language etc. All ones I've heard think it's ridiculous. Jokes yes. Often not nice jokes. Definitely not ever talking about it other than passing comment for amusement of mates.

The men have across the board, whether at work serious it's terrible, or just think ridiculous, or whatever.
They aren't angry. Not like so many women are. They see it as a women's thing. Not for them to get involved past saying awful. For women to act on.

And they've got no skin in the game have they. None of this affects them.
Even when it comes to concern for female family. With any risk from men that could impact women they love. Their default is to try to protect their own. Often by insisting on cab home/ I'll walk and fetch you/ etc etc.

Plus.

The court cases. Have been mainly women who are sex> gender. And men gender > sex. And the dynamic of who brought to court and why totally different.

I'm going to court massive work discrimination / there were ribbons....

I don't know. Women seem as likely if not more so to push identity politics and gender ideology.

Tbh it makes me feel like I'm saying something with my vote more than before.

And it feels strangely subversive

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I wouldn’t vote. If it was possible I’d do a protest vote

In a way you can by spoiling your paper, it says you want to vote but not for any of the candidates.

Last local vote I had I literally just voted for all the women candidates

"hard left"

Who are they then?

Conservative. Angela Rayner and the hard left are the gift that just keeps on giving

Sorry for posting again on this point.

Please bear in mind it's not just/primarily/essentially a vote for the party. Yes of course it counts for that - majority MPs but there's more to consider.

It's firstly about your community, area etc.

And candidates are different when it comes to their personal priorities, opinions etc.

And of course their fundamental role is to work for their condtuents, all constituents. Sure some don't do much but many work hard for those they represent. Irrespective of which colour their rosette.

So please look at the blurb for your candidates. If strong fundamental political principles then obv not the no way ones.

But you know. Read the rest. What do THEY think? What's important to them about local area? If had chance, what things did they do when MP? Sqiz of voting record.

Google will surely reveal if have spoken about sex/ gender and what they think. Or indications of view.

And fact is. Unless something monumental happens. Tories will walk next election.

So focus on local or at least look at candidates when time comes. Rather than wasting a vote.

And yes contraversial. Ages ago on here someone said. Vote for a woman. (I mean unless Nadine d or similar!).
Yes check they aren't one of the women who has views that fuck women over.

In general though. Massively most of the time.

Women think about women, children. Sex offences, feeling safe on street, medical women things that are awful...

They are way more likely to care about women and girls than imo men in general full stop. Who even if lovely just don't have this stuff on their radar, in the picture, full stop.

When I first read that I thought bonkers idea.

Now I agree and have put my money where mouth is last few votes few years. (Without having only woman in my hard no party!).

I'd go to hustings and ask candidates for their definition of the word woman. And then probably end up spoiling my ballot paper.
In 2019, despite knowing Labour had become an unelectable shitshow, I voted for my excellent female Labour MP. We've since moved to a neighbouring constituency who's sitting MP was a frontbencher under Blair. Loyalty to the candidate marginally won out over spoiling my ballot last time, this time there's no loyalty.