École Polytechnique murders 32 years ago today

How many trans women were killed during this period in Canada? I couldn't find out.

Soon even asking questions like this could be outlawed with Bill C-36. Morgane Oger's bill criminalising feminism, intends to silence any dissenters and impose the ideology on the public using the law and to censor the online publication, Feminist Current, run by Meghan Murphy

This was about the women who were shot and those who died on that day. They were targeted that day.

This is what the day was about - those 14 women. This wasn’t the day to look at others - just these 14 and why they were targeted.

This person should not have been asked to speak, nor should they have agreed to speak. They did their speaking at a trans memorial last month.

I don't think that was at all what was going on. The women targeted had emerged from the millennia of inequality against women. The murderer wasn't being treated unequally. Maybe he felt hopeless because he couldn't compete with them ... I've no idea what the relevance of that sentence would be in the context of any VAGW tbh. this was a specifically Incel-type, woman hating, MRA act of extreme violence. I can't make any sense of that sentence in the context of the massacre unless it's some sort of excuse for the man.

I'd never heard of this tragedy.
Why can't transwomen let women have anything of their own. Even massacres

These smaller countries all seem to fall over themselves to be the wokeist wokes. NZ, Scotland, Canada. I know Canada is not small but on the world stage it is.
I think it's to do with a smaller pond of candidates for government and you get a few power hungry, attention hungry people who pull things to an extreme position without the many 'others' who are in bigger Govs who would pull back.

Concern for indigenous people obv important. Massive problems, huge issue.

The rest? Could write an essay about why so shitty.

Also first page Google this piece-

owensoundsuntimes.com/news/local-news/speaker-raises-uncomfortable-question-at-montreal-massacre-vigil

'“Would we be here today if those women had been Indigenous? What if they were trans women? Or women who worked on the streets or had mental health or addictions issues?”

Karen Houle made the observation from the steps of Owen Sound city hall Monday to a few dozen people on the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.

Meanwhile, Indigenous women, children and two-spirit people go missing and are targeted every day in Canada, Houle said.

Houle said many she works with don’t feel safe being who they are in their own homes. She works at the M’Wikwedong Indigenous Friendship Centre and runs a program called Building Gender-Diverse Communities. She’s a 2SLGBtQQIA+ mentor.

“It is the systemic fabric of inequalities that fuels desperation and a lack of hope that leads people to violence.”

She advised everyone to ask people what their pronouns are and use them, and don’t assume about gender, sexuality, identity or intentions, she said. Believe survivors and learn the signs of help, Houle said.'

A few hits maybe 5 first page Google had exact same wording on their page about it, which included-

'As we mourn their loss and remember their lives , we reaffirm our commitment to fight the hatred that led to this tragedy, and the misogyny that still exists today. In Canada and around the world, women, girls, 2SLGBTQQIA+ (two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, plus) and gender diverse individuals face unacceptable violence and discrimination. '

Just googling this to see context etc.

I'm still not clear.

I think (but could well be wrong) that there are many orgs groups communities that hold rememberance events (events not good word to use but can't think of right one).

I think from reading this speaker was at one of them. Rather than there's one main event and it was there iyswim.

Happy to be corrected, Google gave results local news etc hard to piece together.

CBC PEI Twitter turned off comments on one post. One still up vv angry response.

Featuring male people who prioritise male interests on a commemoration of the events of that day where an antifeminist man killed feminist women is an actively hostile act. It enrages me.

[quote vivariumvivariumsvivaria]Guess who they have speaking...brace yourself for the sharing of misogynistic groping this poor vulnerable person was subjected to.

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-trans-woman-guestspeaker-1.6274185?cmp=rss[/quote]
Oh, good grief. Memememememe. Sod the women who were murdered, rather than having their arses felt 😑

And yes, murdered for being intelligent women

The thought processes are incomprehensible to the vast majority of people.

Exactly. Keep it in mind when you deal with them.

This is so blatantly shameless,

It's not the first time this event has been appropriated.

I'd really like this thread to be about what it should be about, not some inappropriate sideshow.

These young women were shot because they were women - and because they were clever women. They were women like my daughter.

The thought processes are incomprehensible to the vast majority of people. What are those who knew those women, their relatives, the survivors, going to feel about the inclusion of this person. Don't their feelings matter? I hope there's a backlash by those who really matter, and this person ends up rightfully cancelled.

he actually let the men flee

To be fair to the male students, he actually rounded them up and made them go out at gunpoint. At that point the students also thought there were other shooters and that they were actually being singled out. It was only when they were outside and the shooter shut them out, that they realised that the women were the real targets.

This is so blatantly shameless, I hope it will open a lot of people’s eyes. RIP all those murdered women, and my sympathy to those who mourn them.

I just saw this...how, how could they let this happen at a memorial for women who were killed because a man hated feminists? How can this speaker think it appropriate to speak at this memorial about a single time of their being groped while wearing a red dress (and what an odd detail to include)? Women have been groped so many times in our lives, we lose count, yet somehow this person's single experience is equated to a massacre of 14 women? I'm dumbfounded and disgusted.

I was hoping that the speaks for booed off stage but I guess there was just a shocked silence. Those who green lighted this need a boot up the backside.

If this person has been in class that day - they’d be running out the door as a man when the murdered asked the men to leave.

"According to the Femicide Observatory [Canada], 92 women and girls were killed in the first six months of 2021, 14 more killings than over the same period last year and 32 more than in 2019."

How many trans women were killed during this period in Canada? I couldn't find out.

Insensitive, disrespectful, tone deaf -there's absolutely no experience or event these people won't appropriate.