FB Groups and JK

@Wavedancer99 please link to a peer reviewed scientific journal paper or article which shows evidence that human beings (a dimorphic species) can change sex. If this is indeed true, this will be paradigm shifting, breaking world news type stuff. I'm surprised I haven't seen it in the newspapers!

Yes, those particular "facts" (which are actually gross oversimplifications that aren't remotely supported by the scientific community), are in fact just pseudoscientific bigotry.

Who are the scientists who are stating (against all established knowledge about the human body) that humans can change sex?

As is categorizing trans women as "men".

You want to talk policy? Okay.

Tell me, do you think it's okay for an adult female person with a vagina to expose her genitals to little girls?

there is someone whose whole social media persona is based around Harry Potter, does tik toks, Instagram youtube, twitch quizzes all with paying subscribers etc. He talks awful about JK and did a charity quiz marathon last weekend to raise money for various trans charities.

Happy enough to rake in his money though

@Wavedancer99 I wonder if you can answer a question...

What is a woman?

An actual definition, one that does not include the word "woman".

Yes, those particular "facts" (which are actually gross oversimplifications that aren't remotely supported by the scientific community), are in fact just pseudoscientific bigotry.

Oh. And of their own racism apparently.

"Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'GC ideology'?"

Campaigning against the inclusion and bodily autonomy of trans people under the veneer of "feminism".

"And define 'transphobia'."

Hostility, exclusion, and demonization of/against trans people.

And yes, deliberate misgendering and constantly lashing out over anything that includes or accommodates trans people is hostility.

"Intellectual", "factual" bigotry fixated on "biological reality" is still bigotry.

Are you really saying that stating the biological fact that humans can't change sex is bigotry? Or have I misunderstood?

Now, now, we all know very well that if they were able to provide any evidence of JKR's transphobia at all they would have done so.

All they can do is provide evidence of their own rank misogyny.

So anyone who wants single sex spaces is transphobic? So my daughter should change in the communal swimming changing rooms with men because otherwise it would be transphobic.

Right. We saw how well that policy worked in wii spa with the sexual predator getting his dick out in front of the little girl 👍

That's a great policy

Single sex spaces are an allowed exemption in the Equality Act 2010 for the safety and dignity of women. Transwomen are male. They have not changed sex. This is not a value judgement. It is a basic fact. They are (legally) excluded from female single sex spaces because they are male. Gender identity does not change that.

The chant of TWAW does not make the need for single sex spaces any less relevant.

It is not misogyny to dislike GCers and GC ideology.

Can you explain exactly what you mean by 'GC ideology'?

And transphobia is a form of bigotry, just like misogyny and racism.

And define 'transphobia'.

Please can you share evidence of jkr's transphobia?

And transphobia is a form of bigotry, just like misogyny and racism.

The term TERF is laden with sexual violence. It is the epitome of misogny and has given a platform for misognists, men's rights activists and incels to openly state violence against women with no condemnation - www.terfisaslur.com It's a horrendous slur and I believe was termed so during a court case).

And actual transphobia is a form of bigotry, yes. Factually stating that human beings as a species cannot change sex is not.

@Waitwhat23
It's hardly just her essay. And I genuinely don't care how often she starts off with "I'm not transphobic, but..." and follows up with dogwhistles about "freedom of speech and thought" (to be transphobic) or "fragile teenagers" (who should be restricted from being able to transition).

The fact remains that what she's advocating for – the complete exclusion of trans women from women's spaces – is inherently transphobic.

Even the GLAAD link given above fails to mention the many, many times throughout the essay that she expresses support and solidarity for trans people. Just completely ignores them.

And there isn't even a link to the essay. Almost as though they don't want people to read it because they'll see that it's not transphobic at all.

Even the GLAAD link given above fails to mention the many, many times throughout the essay that she expresses support and solidarity for trans people. Just completely ignores them.

JKs essay is excellent.

@wavedancer99

The sentence you have quoted is from JKR's essay but makes a lot more sense in context. I'll quote the entire paragraph it comes from -

'But endlessly unpleasant as its constant targeting of me has been, I refuse to bow down to a movement that I believe is doing demonstrable harm in seeking to erode ‘woman’ as a political and biological class and offering cover to predators like few before it. I stand alongside the brave women and men, gay, straight and trans, who’re standing up for freedom of speech and thought, and for the rights and safety of some of the most vulnerable in our society: young gay kids, fragile teenagers, and women who’re reliant on and wish to retain their single sex spaces. Polls show those women are in the vast majority, and exclude only those privileged or lucky enough never to have come up against male violence or sexual assault, and who’ve never troubled to educate themselves on how prevalent it is.'

She is referring to self ID. The predators she refers to are the people (however they identify) who will take advantage of self ID. She states it explicitly earlier in her essay-

'I believe the majority of trans-identified people not only pose zero threat to others, but are vulnerable for all the reasons I’ve outlined. Trans people need and deserve protection. Like women, they’re most likely to be killed by sexual partners. Trans women who work in the sex industry, particularly trans women of colour, are at particular risk. Like every other domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor I know, I feel nothing but empathy and solidarity with trans women who’ve been abused by men.

So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.'

I mean, you'll know that having read the essay? You're not just relying on quotes on Twitter surely?

@Wavedancer99
Why don't you 'educate yourself' by reading JK Rowling's essay?
www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

And then say what you think is wrong with what she said.