Whoopi Goldberg called a Terf on Twitter for saying men don’t get pregnant

As DP muttered the other day ‘the ones demanding ‘be kind’ are the ones who never are’

This is where 'be kind' takes us. It's a one way street --> kindness towards the ejaculators.

Agree with her there. Men shouldn't get the say all on abortions/bodily autonomy. Joint decision!

Where I think you are missing the point, men onlt get a say before they ejaculate their sperm into someone's vagina. Once they have released said sperm, it is no longer their decision.

If they didn't want to become a father they should ensure that their sperm does not meet someone's egg.

Of course she was being transphobic in the social media universe

Where men can have periods and babies

And women can have a penis

Back in the real world where biological facts still matter she wasn’t

How has social media opinions been allowed to make such an impact on society

And I've already said very true if anyone bothered to read my next comment

Then why did you say "joint decision" at all? you can hardly blame people for thinking that was your position.

Ain't it just.

Was she talking about men in her posts or trans women?
We seem to be conflating two separate issues.
*Whoopi said the following “Do any of you men have any eggs or the possibility of carrying a fetus? How dare you talk about what a fetus wants! You have no idea about pregnancy

You can of course point to all the MTF trans people who have any eggs or the possibility of carrying a foetus.

Joint decision?!

Is it fuck!!!! No man gets to have half a say about my body or my uterus. The father of the baby I want to abort? Does he fuck get to say whether I am to go through with the pregnancy or not. MY BODY MY CHOICE.

FUCK THAT

I haven't caught up with this properly yet. Really hoping she sticks to her guns on this and doesn't have to get herself 'educated'. I imagine she's not one to be bullied and she's thinking clearly on this, but in the States you never know.

Talking about women and only women offends people who think that males can be women, just that very idea is 'exclusionary' and so I'm not surprised it resulted in rounding up and piling onto Whoopi. We cannot talk about women and women's bodies without talking about men too. That's where all the 'menustrators' and 'cervix havers' have got us. (Thanks very much LibFems and TWAW believers/followers.)

The View has covered trans people in the military before. Whoopi was not part of this segment and it's worth watching I think, up til the question asked around 6m in. I think the exchange of looks and facial expressions is telling.

The View is a mix of hard-hitting political news and human interest stories and I think an all female presenter panel would suggest it maintains a feminist perspective. I would argue that this was lacking here at least.

It's what misogynists have wanted for years! It's a gift for them with others gift wrapping it for them

@NoNotMeNoSiree

not ever Very true. Still doesn't sound like she was talking about trans people though so that people are conflating.

Which is why it's considered transphobic to use the word 'woman' in relation to biological sex.

Which means we can no longer discuss issues pertaining to biological sex, because as demonstrated perfectly here, the issue immediately gets sidetracked into 'Whoopi is transphobic' rather than sticking with the main point, which is the US' shocking slide backwards into the state controlling women's bodies and choices.

I mean, it's a total gift to misogynists. What a perfect way to kill feminism. Claim that feminism includes males and that one cannot use the word 'woman' and feminism becomes impossible.

What they are successfully proving is, regardless of the verbalising and obfusticating with language, the actions are wholly based on sex based thinking.

And it divides the world into two groups and follows a principle of heads the group born male wins, and tails, the group born female loses.

It's as sexist as hell and it's very successfully demonstrating why females need identification and protection in law. Because over and over again we now have the evidence; in mixed sex situations, male needs dominate and are met and are valued over and above negative impact and actual exclusion of female ones.

Yes, TAs are conflating
I was on about posters on here.
HTH.

No. I don’t think she is. Because no one seems to take them into consideration until one gets pregnant. It’s always about the tw.

She is getting kicked because she forgot about trans men, who are also women.

No that is not it. Transmen may be the excuse but she is getting kicked for drawing attention to the fact men are not women.

But I think this is exactly the end goal of trans activism: if you destroy the notion of women as a separate sex class then you also destroy all ability to recognise sexism. Bingo, those jumped up women with their ideas of things like maternity pay or equal pay for equal work can sod off!

In a nutshell, this is how relabelling women as a gender category makes it impossible to fight for women's sex-based rights.

Gender identity ideology is like toxoplasmosis of the rational and self-declared intelligensia when it comes to this issue!

carlzimmer.com/the-great-puppet-master-debate/

Seems like any woman who says something the rainbow groupthink doesn’t like is a T*

Was she talking about men in her posts or trans women?

Hate to break it to you but both of those groups are men.

She is getting kicked because she forgot about trans men, who are also women.

She was talking about sex not identity, and that's not allowed anymore.