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Trans training at work

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Debroglie · 03/12/2021 16:18

The trans train has arrived (with stonewall help) at my workplace (a secondary school) and we are having training on using things like ‘assigned at birth’ and ‘cisgender’ can I refuse to participate on the basis that it is in opposition to my beliefs?
I know I probably can’t but my blood is boiling! Especially for all my lovely gay and lesbian students who will be vulnerable to this crazy brainwashing.
I don’t know what I’m asking but I feel so completely powerless. As a science teacher I have spent my career fighting the idea of ‘lady-brain’ only to find myself now compelled to preach the exact opposite message!

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Megan1992xx · 03/12/2021 16:52

@Debroglie

Thanks leaf I just posted on your thread in staffroom. I am scared to go to the head in case that’s the end of my employment (although this may be the hill I am prepared to die on)
It is outrageous that you fear losing your job just because you disagree with an ideology.
Debroglie · 03/12/2021 16:49

Thanks leaf I just posted on your thread in staffroom.
I am scared to go to the head in case that’s the end of my employment (although this may be the hill I am prepared to die on)

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Leafstamp · 03/12/2021 16:46

FFS! Schools should not taking advice from Stonewall! I'm not surprised your blood is boiling. Please, please complain straight the Head, here's some material to help you:

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2021/02/14/is-your-childrens-school-a-stonewall-champion/

www.transgendertrend.com/product/stonewall-schools-guidance-a-critical-review/

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4411027-Stonewall-advising-our-secondary-school

Keep posting if you need more support. And if you are friendly with any parents, get them to complain too.

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Megan1992xx · 03/12/2021 16:38

We had the Stonewall training a young transman came in and spoke to us about his experiences. Nothing wrong with that then came all the BS.

I took one of the trainers aside, who happened to be black, and asked him if he was offended by cultural appropriation. He said he was very much offended and then asked him if he could understand that many cis women were offended by the appropriation of their sex by men.
This went down like a lead balloon and I am in doubt that when it comes to career advancement well?

FannyCann · 03/12/2021 16:31

Re Stonewall can you bring attention to the fact that many government agencies and the BBC are now dropping their association with Stonewall? If the school is just signing up with them now they are rather behind the curve and need to give it a swerve.

Ellextra · 03/12/2021 16:31

One of my kids had a phse lesson recently...

He pulled the teacher up on presenting opinion as fact.

I've impressed upon him the need to be respectful and mindful especially of vulnerable people with mental health issues but I'm happy he's also taken on board my lessons in critical thinking

He didn't say people shouldn't have opinions, just that they shouldn't be presented as fact.

Debroglie · 03/12/2021 16:28

Yes I will go to keep an eye as much as I can but it’s really stressful for me and I am not well anyway.
Good idea about contacting the governors. I’m a little worried that it could destroy my career so I might see if I can get a parent to do it for me.

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MsFogi · 03/12/2021 16:23

I think it would be good to ask a few questions about how this fits within the DofE guidance on lobby groups etc. Also I'd be checking that they have made the governors aware - as a governor I would want the heads up and I would be all over it like a rash so hopefully there is at least one GC governor for your school.
I'm sure someone with much more knowledge will be along to offer advice.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 03/12/2021 16:23

Depending on how much Stonewall are actually getting involved, can you express concern that Nancy Kelley has called lesbians ‘sexual racists’ or mention the Nolan podcasts?

KittenKong · 03/12/2021 16:23

It’s worth going just to keep an eye on the batshittery I suppose. Sorry.

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