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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

PM on Radio 4: what is gender identity?

215 replies

nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:03

Evan Davis said that there will be a "good natured" chat about this in tonight's programme. This will give him a chance to demonstrate again his well-known impartiality on this issue.

It's not yet clear when this segment will be in the programme.

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CatsOperatingInGangs · 29/11/2021 17:58

I am pleased this discussion has happened and that they have pledged to do it again.

Melroses · 29/11/2021 17:57

Oh dear India is making statistics up.

They have just stuck the the 'personal experience' side of things - way to go!

LizzieSiddal · 29/11/2021 17:57

#NoDebate is definitely over.

WarriorN · 29/11/2021 17:57

With more people...! 🍿

LizzieSiddal · 29/11/2021 17:56

Great! More discussion!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/11/2021 17:56

Is that it? "Helpful discussion"? That wasn't a discussion, it was a sound bite.

nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:56

Evan Davis is saying this is a start and is inviting IW and KS to look forward into this over the next few months.

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littlebilliie · 29/11/2021 17:56

IW voice is not as "gentle" as they started. Hmm talking over a woman and dismissing her...

WarriorN · 29/11/2021 17:56

Oooh more chats to be had ... Grin

Doomscrolling · 29/11/2021 17:56

“Where I disagree with KS’s position…”

Geez, IW, you haven’t let her state her position once!

Doomscrolling · 29/11/2021 17:55

IW is spouting such egregious bollocks

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/11/2021 17:54

Gender is like shoes which are all very nice and easy?

nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:54

IW: innate biological gender

ED: why should this be a vicious argument Kathleen?

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Stillcrikey · 29/11/2021 17:53

Hmm. Have they asked ALL the lions and penguins? 🤔

WarriorN · 29/11/2021 17:53

Well we've had clown fish so now penguins and lions... quite the circus 🎪 🤡

WarriorN · 29/11/2021 17:52

IW talking all over KS 🙄

TheMarzipanDildo · 29/11/2021 17:51

@nauticant

IW: "gender identity is who we are ... we all have a gender identity .. . as soon as I transitioned I never think about it anymore ... lions and penguins have it".
Grin
nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:51

IW is now saying that KS doesn't necessarily have a gender identity. That's a fast contradiction.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 29/11/2021 17:51

I don't have a gender, thanks, India.

I've looked carefully and I don't have one, thank you. That deserves respect.

nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:50

ED: "if you lopped off my kit and gave me hormones I'd still feel like a man inside".

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CatsOperatingInGangs · 29/11/2021 17:49

Penguins and lions have a gender identity???????!!!!!

LizzieSiddal · 29/11/2021 17:49

Penguins!

nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:49

ED and IW agree it's "born in the wrong body".

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nauticant · 29/11/2021 17:48

IW: "gender identity is who we are ... we all have a gender identity .. . as soon as I transitioned I never think about it anymore ... lions and penguins have it".

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Melroses · 29/11/2021 17:48

India first - gender identity just quite simply who you are🤷‍♀️