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FloralBunting · 23/11/2021 11:43

Well, sort of. I've come to the end of my time on MN. I've been here under various names for the best part of two decades, and it's been transformational. I've met some of my best friends, received great advice about raising my kids, dealing with abuse, and most of all, shifted from being a mousey submissive wife Christian into a complete gobshite feminist lesbian.

I haven't been a regular for quite some time. I'm active and busy doing other things tbh. But I do occasionally pop in to see what's what. The past few times reminded me why I stopped visiting that much in the first place. I am often deleted now, and the feeling of walking on eggshells in case I'm reported by TRAs is no less unpleasant now than it was when this was the only platform available to talk about women's rights, albeit in a highly controlled manner.

It's not the only platform anymore, not by a very long way, so I'm making the decision to not submit to that feeling ever again. So, sort of flounce, yes, but mostly it's a fond farewell to the many women whom I've been helped by on MN and FWR whom I don't know offline. Keep speaking up in your own sphere, be more JKR, be more Magdalen, be anonymous and know that whatever you do makes a difference.

Women and girls matter, including you, so take good care of yourself.

Sincerely wims, go well.

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Lolapusht · 23/11/2021 17:10

I am very thankful for gobshite, feminist lesbians 😊

The baton will be passed on Gin

Grumpyosaurus · 23/11/2021 17:03

Go well, Floral - but maybe pop back from time to time?

FlibbertyGiblets · 23/11/2021 16:53

Take care you lovely woman, we shall miss you XX

persister · 23/11/2021 16:38

I mainly lurk but just want to thank you, Floral, I have so enjoyed your thoughtful and intelligent posts over the years. Good luck.

Leafstamp · 23/11/2021 16:30

I have learnt a lot from your posts Floral and will miss them but I completely understand. I too am not impressed with some of what I have been deleted for.

Best wishes to you.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 23/11/2021 16:05

💚 🤍 💜

All the best floral and thank you 🌻

FreezerBird · 23/11/2021 16:05

Oh @FloralBunting I will miss you! I've learned loads from you and have very fond memories of that thread when we were all just shooting the breeze waiting for Fair Cop to announce something and we somehow got onto Jael, and kick-ass biblical women generally.

I hope you know how much you are valued.

Needmoresleep · 23/11/2021 16:04

Floral, thank you for your many intelligent, insightful and witty posts.

Things are now so very different.

Very few years ago, and there was only one MP (David TC Davis) sticking his head above the parapet; only a very few journalists (James Kirkup, Janice Turner and, less lauded but still pioneering, Sanchez Manning of the Mail); Ginner Posie and Magdalene Berns; and virtually no websites.

Where there were few, there are now more. Brave women taking to the courts, speaking their minds, regular newspaper articles, the LGB Alliance, JK Rowling, Ministers speaking up about Stonewall influence, even the BBC showing it has grown some balls.

This forum has also changed. Lots more posters, newly enraged. A clear sense that across MN, in the street and in the workplace people are starting to feel able to question.

Thank you, and those other great, articulate women, for starting the momentum. It was tough and so feel able to just pop in occasionally to enjoy what you started. Who knows where it will all end up, but I doubt that we women, who have realised that their voices have counted for so little in the gender debate, will accept further trashing of our rights.

As for MN. I sense that they too would like to regain their focus on being a parenting site for intelligent women. Hosting this debate has not been easy for them, and they must be relieved that they are no longer on their own. Frustrating as their rules are, I am happy to give them a pass.

Fare ye well.

Highwind · 23/11/2021 15:55

Keep fighting the good fight!

Will miss your wisdom and eloquence, but I completely understand your reasons for moving on (Still a darn shame though!).

Whatwouldscullydo · 23/11/2021 15:54
Flowers

I understand floral. I will miss you. The deletions speak volumes.

The " list" is a very hard place to be and the truth cab be very hard to tell. The moving goal posts ajd fragile feelings make it especially difficult at times.

Look after yourself

Eyesofdisarray · 23/11/2021 15:48

Best wishes Floral
And thanks 💐🌷💐

FloralBunting · 23/11/2021 15:35

For those asking, there are more and more articles being written in reputable and accessible places and shared widely, there are more people in authority, like government and media speaking up, and even Twitter, if you're judicious and pre-emptively block pile-on merchants like LOJ and co. you can say way more than you can on MN.

Plus, and I really can't emphasize this enough - the face to face conversations you are having when you pick up your kids, when you spend time with your friends and family, when you wait for the bus, when you become a school governor, when you challenge the local Guide group over their safeguarding policy, these are the places which will move the mountain.

Share petititons, fill in consultations (the Conversion Therapy Ban one is especially important right now - make it clear that questioning and exploring a sense of Gender Identity freely is not the same as gay conversion therapy), support court challenges and campaigns, speak to your MP.

Thanks so much for saying nice things, but keep bloody going with all that stuff. I know you will. 💚🤍💜

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/11/2021 15:35

Much love Floral Thanks

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 23/11/2021 15:35

I'm sorry you're leaving - I've learned a lot from your posts. Thank you. Flowers

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 23/11/2021 15:32

Sorry you're going. Take care of you and yours Flowers

RaininSummer · 23/11/2021 15:27

Sorry to see toy go but best wishes to you and keep on making holes in the web of nonsense x

CoalTit · 23/11/2021 15:27

I usually just lurk here, but I have to say thanks, Floral, for your contributions to this board, which has made such positive contributions to people's lives.
I was going to say women's lives, but maybe some male teenage refugee from toxic masculinity has been convinced by the wisdom on here not to try to identify his way out of life's problems. You never know.

TopCatsTopHat · 23/11/2021 15:24

I'm a lurker on FWR mostly, I'll miss you. Where else are these conversations possible that you mention? Wish you all the best you and other brilliant posters have helped shaped my views for the better.

FreeBritnee · 23/11/2021 15:16

PM me where else you’re posting please 💐

AnyOldPrion · 23/11/2021 15:15

Thanks for all your thoughtful posts, Floral. Like so many here, I am sad to see you go, but fully understand why you want to.

Here’s to continued puuuuuuulling, wherever you choose to do it.

jenny5000 · 23/11/2021 15:07

I'm really sad to hear that, but understand. Please don't forget that the resistance has grown because of women like you, posting on this board and taking a stand IRL. I can't thank you enough for how much you've contributed to that Flowers

ErrolTheDragon · 23/11/2021 15:06

@StandUpStraight

floral you’re one of my favourite posters - have learnt a lot from reading your thoughts, though don’t post often myself. Glad you will use your powers in arenas where you feel you can be more effective at less cost to yourself.
Echoing this post. All best wishes Floral ThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanks Bunting
dianebrewster · 23/11/2021 15:05

You will be missed @FloralBunting but we all have to balance our real lives and our activism, work out where the energy is best expended. IF that is not MN for you right now, then fair enough. I know you have definitely not been silenced 😎.

We have the momentum now, people are taking notice, journalists are getting braver (or the brave ones have converted their editors), the facts are getting out and people are generally saying "WTF?"

OneSugar1 · 23/11/2021 14:59

Another one here who got ‘peaked’ by this board. Thank you (and others) for all your contributions. It has made a difference in the real world and will continue to do so.

Melroses · 23/11/2021 14:55

There will be echos of Floral in FWR for a long time to come.

I look forward to more Spirit of Floral flying around the internet and in real life, from you and everyone else!

Go Well (and I mean that 'in the spirit' 😬)