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A trans-Identified BDSM fan/gun nut is now a senior leader at Girlguiding

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Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 10:59

Via Glinner’s sub stack. Sorry if this has already been posted!

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/wtf-are-girlguiding-thinking

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Hungry675tf · 23/11/2021 19:35

@DazedWifelet

He has now deleted his Twitter account. Too late!
Shame, was looking forward to having a good read.

This is precisely why my DD doesn't attend GG. I will email to tell them. PP was right, they would be safer in the local 'spoons for an hour. I bet bar staff there have actually had safeguarding training.

CookieMumsters · 23/11/2021 19:33

My calculation was 7000 members in Nottinghamshire, split across 18 divisions, so probably responsible for in the region of 400 girls. That's probably 20/25 groups divided across r/b/g and a few Ranger groups in probably 7ish locations.

Even as a county com, I didn't consider myself to be 'senior'

They still shouldn't be a leader.

MinervaBoudicca · 23/11/2021 19:20

The thrill he felt about being so immersed in a women’s and girls’ environment is clear from screenshots following his ‘promotion’.
Maybe that led to recklessness

DazedWifelet · 23/11/2021 19:17

He has now deleted his Twitter account. Too late!

RedDogsBeg · 23/11/2021 19:14

True RedCarpetRebellion, but women and girls first.

RedCarpetRebellion · 23/11/2021 19:11

@RedDogsBeg

Nope, it’s not the end game. Or at least not the only end game.

Which is: removal of any space or language solely for women

And removal of same sex orientation legal protections

And removal of any boundaries to safeguard children of both sexes

And free speech silenced

And sterilisation/eugenics of gender non conformity

And ‘shaming’ or ‘stigma’ of any and all fetishes socially unacceptable and considered literal violence. So no making the MAP’s feel bad for their ‘sexuality’ now.

Maryann1975 · 23/11/2021 19:04

@CookieMumsters

I'm a GG leader and, as many PP have, emailed and tweeted to complain.

However, this person isn't a 'senior leader' in the scale of the organisation - that title makes it sound much more grand than it is. The equivalent would be an area manager in charge if 7 or 8 shops.

It's unacceptable that this person has ANY role, but they are barely more than a group leader.

If you are using shops to represent guiding units, I Used to volunteer in a district with 12 units. Three districts made up the division. I have no idea how many units those districts had, but that’s Potentially a massive Amount of girls and women Under this commissioner.
I appreciate there are a lot of people more senior than a division commissioner, but I would class it as quite important. In the county I live in now, quite often the division commissioners are on committees at county level to ‘get things done’. I would also expect the county commissioner job to go to someone who has previously held a division commissioner role so potentially quite an influential role.
Gingercake2018 · 23/11/2021 19:02

I went to brownies and guides, but will soon be places my DD name on the beavers waiting list.

It is such a shame as guides was a great place for girls to develop as leaders without being pushed out/passed over by boys.

drum123 · 23/11/2021 18:53

It was the girl guiding policy on trans girls that first peaked me (thank you to the viper who shared that many years ago, can't remember who it was). That led me down the rabbit hole that is trans activism, and i was peaked many, many times. Now this. I am sick to my stomach that GG have come to this. Why on earth the question is not asked about WHY a man would want to join a female only organisation, and say he is trans to do so? Accepting TWAW is such obvious nonsense. And frankly, this man does not deserve to have woman anywhere near him, either as a word or a person. And if that gets me deleted, or reported, I don't give a flying fuck.

RepentMotherfucker · 23/11/2021 18:52

At least you know exactly what you are getting there, unlike in the Guides who are pretending to be one thing and are something else entirely.

Well I also feel like in the dodgy boozer the regulars will know who's dangerous and will steer her clear of him. Whereas in GG it's been made very clear to everyone who they are not allowed to complain about.

So it's beer stained carpet and 11am drinkers for you DD. Enjoy.

RedDogsBeg · 23/11/2021 18:50

@Ttoomany

Is it enough to allow trans identifying men and boys into Girl Guides? Isn't their logic that all women's spaces should be open to all men? The abolition of women's spaces?
The end goal of the TRA/Genderist agenda is the complete removal of anything and everything that women and girls have for themselves - spaces, services, language, clubs, associations - you name it they want it, women and girls must have NOTHING exclusively for themselves.

Girl Guides knew their policy would lead to this, they fucking KNEW, they were warned but the chance of rainbow glitter and sparkles was way more important to them and so they chose their side and, as predicted, this is the result.

RedCarpetRebellion · 23/11/2021 18:47

@RedDogsBeg

Exactly why people vote conservative.

foxgoosefinch · 23/11/2021 18:46

I notice the policy copied above also singles out participating in war games as an unacceptable activity. Like, for example, collecting replica firearms, role-playing and posing with them, those kind of war games? Grrr.

RedDogsBeg · 23/11/2021 18:45

@RepentMotherfucker

This is why my dd is isn't in Guides. All her friends go. I'd rather send her to the dodgy 'Spoons up by the bus station for an hour every Monday tbh.
At least you know exactly what you are getting there, unlike in the Guides who are pretending to be one thing and are something else entirely.
TheLikesofMe · 23/11/2021 18:44

Withdraw your daughters!

It is only when there are drastically dwindling numbers of girl guides-less than 100 in the whole country-that they will be forced to stop this shit.

If only 20% do it, they will explain it away as the actions of Trans Phobics. It has to be a big number.

Withdraw your daughters now: all of us together. We have a voice-they ignore it but we have feet to leave upon-use them!

CookieMumsters · 23/11/2021 18:42

I'm a GG leader and, as many PP have, emailed and tweeted to complain.

However, this person isn't a 'senior leader' in the scale of the organisation - that title makes it sound much more grand than it is. The equivalent would be an area manager in charge if 7 or 8 shops.

It's unacceptable that this person has ANY role, but they are barely more than a group leader.

ponkydonkey · 23/11/2021 18:42

That is all kinds of wrong... 😱😱😱 ewwwwwww

CruellaDeVilla · 23/11/2021 18:33

@RepentMotherfucker

This is why my dd is isn't in Guides. All her friends go. I'd rather send her to the dodgy 'Spoons up by the bus station for an hour every Monday tbh.
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Scraggythang · 23/11/2021 18:32

@Ttoomany an experiment to see how it goes? (Those of us switched on enough know) make us fight for our sex segregated spaces all over again?

Sounds overly dramatic, and if I voiced it out loud everyone would think I’d lost the plot… but yet, it’s how I feel. It may not have affected women’s everyday life yet. But it could.

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Thefartingsofaofdenmarkstreet · 23/11/2021 18:28

What. The. Actual. SHIT??? Shock

Glad to see they are looking into it though!

I shall await Owen Jones's tweets about the 'targeted hate campaign of harrassment by anti-trans activists' towards Monica.....

RepentMotherfucker · 23/11/2021 18:23

This is why my dd is isn't in Guides. All her friends go. I'd rather send her to the dodgy 'Spoons up by the bus station for an hour every Monday tbh.

Ttoomany · 23/11/2021 18:21

Is it enough to allow trans identifying men and boys into Girl Guides? Isn't their logic that all women's spaces should be open to all men? The abolition of women's spaces?

Ttoomany · 23/11/2021 18:20

@WholeClassKeptIn

Its almost as if destruction of girl guiding was the ultimate aim.
I've been wondering about this today, too.
Artichokeleaves · 23/11/2021 18:18

It's certainly hard to see any real valuing of or care for the girls in the actions of this commissioner.

WholeClassKeptIn · 23/11/2021 18:13

Its almost as if destruction of girl guiding was the ultimate aim.

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