A trans-Identified BDSM fan/gun nut is now a senior leader at Girlguiding

It's in the Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10235539/Girlguides-launch-probe-trans-Commissioner-58-saucy-dominatrix-style-picture.html

Challenors get a mention
As does Helen Watts

[quote LittleWingSoul]@RedCarpetRebellion as a fellow Distillers fan you think I'd know that too, right?!

I've found it's people I care about most - my siblings for example - I can't discuss this with. I've put my name on petitions and quietly broach the subject when it comes up, but I am not on SM (other than here!) and work in a university. So I feel limited. Which further reinforces my fear! 2 of my 3 children are on the spectrum and I am hoping this has all gone away by the time they are old enough to be swayed by any of this madness.[/quote]
Both of my girls are also.

But I only care dh understands and he does. Snarky loner that I am I don’t care about trying to persuade friends. Which has resulted in them all agreeing with me

I think when we stop apologising for what we think and stop putting disclaimer about caring about transwomen also, we become much more persuasive. Not giving a fuck seems to make others start giving a fuck.

I am spending more and more time with stomping boots on and Brody blaring in my ears while I walk dogs though

I hate the Mail and I hate that I agree with it.

@RedCarpetRebellion as a fellow Distillers fan you think I'd know that too, right?!

I've found it's people I care about most - my siblings for example - I can't discuss this with. I've put my name on petitions and quietly broach the subject when it comes up, but I am not on SM (other than here!) and work in a university. So I feel limited. Which further reinforces my fear! 2 of my 3 children are on the spectrum and I am hoping this has all gone away by the time they are old enough to be swayed by any of this madness.

[quote LittleWingSoul]**@RedDogsBeg* The end goal of the TRA/Genderist agenda is the complete removal of anything and everything that women and girls have for themselves - spaces, services, language, clubs, associations - you name it they want it, women and girls must have NOTHING exclusively for themselves*

This made me well up.

Every now and then this battle makes me feel so low I have to take a break from it - that's happening again after reading this thread. And I am not even a vocal activist, too scared to be.[/quote]
It becomes much easier to cope with when you start getting mouthy about it imho.

Learn not to apologise for caring about women and children’s rights before anyone else’s.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10235539/amp/Girlguides-launch-probe-trans-Commissioner-58-saucy-dominatrix-style-picture.html

It’s hit the news - good 👍

@RedDogsBeg The end goal of the TRA/Genderist agenda is the complete removal of anything and everything that women and girls have for themselves - spaces, services, language, clubs, associations - you name it they want it, women and girls must have NOTHING exclusively for themselves

This made me well up.

Every now and then this battle makes me feel so low I have to take a break from it - that's happening again after reading this thread. And I am not even a vocal activist, too scared to be.

The same admins are on several groups and I understand this ban on the subject comes from gghq

Also why are male non binary people excluded from these roles? Seems awfully discriminatory…

I wish I was surprised.

However Girl Guides got advised on their trans inclusive policies by extreme porn advocate and professional Skeksis lookalike Jane Fae so what else would we expect?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

I feel so upset about this, and my DD isn't even in Guides, she does Scouts for various reasons.

I just cannot believe this, can this really happen?

As a PP said, I really feel like the end game in this is to destroy Girl Guides altogether. I mean, an organisation for girls that doesn't allow creepy men and their pervy fetishes? Can't have that can we?

The Sh*t is going down on their Twitter - I hope the papers get hold of it asap.

The GG movement has been in decline for a longtime - scouting has admitted girls and in an attempt to counter this the GG movement became less about adventure and more sedentary. The ditching of traditional values has seen membership fall and this latest episode is my view the last straw. Leaders are subject to DBS checks but anyone who become a leader in GG needs to commit to the values of the organisation - I do not believe this member has and I am appalled by the example it sets

It doesn't seemed to have been picked up by the media which is strange.
I have just looked on twitter and the whole giving children over 13 years old contraception on residentials is disgusting.

Astonishing

How is this going down in the Facebook groups for guides leaders? Has it been noticed?

No dd in gg to pull them out but if I did, for now I would pull them out. They can always return when gg regains their safeguarding.

I expect the latter. Remember they have only just been celebrating 'asexual week'.

How do they backtrack without many, many senior heads responsible for this mess rolling is beyond me.

They can't say we made a mistake in bowing to gender ideology because that means that since these policies have been introduced they've put girls at risk - despite being warned about it.

No sireee....they'll do an investigation and put it down to an admin error. Stress the fact it could have happened regardless of the gender identity of the person involved and say they have strengthened their vetting processes so this doesn't happen again.

Utterly forgetting that the reason why this has never been a problem before is that female guide leaders as a general rule don't need to validate their "alter egos" through online "fawnication".

Alternatively they may well brazen it out and state this person is an integral part of the development team for the latest inclusive "Dominatrix" and "Sniper" badges...

I just checked for the Southwell division, it's 5 different villages that are covered by it. The Facebook page shows said person handing out certificates at separate groups and of course photos of the girls celebrating Nottinghamshire pride with the obligatory rainbows.

GG are getting hammered on their Twitter thread, probably too arrogant to take any notice though.

including trans women and non-binary members who were recorded as female at birth, who can make their Girlguiding Promise

It would be more accurate and more concise to say "males and females".

They still shouldn't be a leader.

They shouldn't have been anywhere near any position in Girl Guides.