A trans-Identified BDSM fan/gun nut is now a senior leader at Girlguiding

she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl. And this furore is only because she is Trans.

3 excuses for the price of one! Shame they contradict each other.

That what they want though? - no girls organisations.

I've been told by our County that "she is just playing dress up, and it really isn't an issue because a GG Leader is never left alone with a girl. And this furore is only because she is Trans.". Completely missing the point and pushing it under the carpet.

Irrespective of gender, a senior, experienced youth work volunteer should not think it is appropriate to post such images on public SM, it's not one error of judgement.

Actually, I'm fairly sure if she was female or male she would have been dismissed. Pushing it under the carpet is precisely because she is Trans.

Also agree that 'trans' is entirely irrelevant here. Anyone posing in dominatrix/fetish gear and/or with guns, and posting those pictures openly on social media is not a behaving in a responsible manner and should not be in this position.

The posing with guns is horrific. Like Arabella, I'm from a rural background. I know plenty of people who own guns and behave responsibly.

Sorry , me again- just shown that photograph to my husband whose comments were "Remember Dunblane" and "No child of his would be going anywhere near this person"

Yes. I know plenty of gunowners (live rurally). Not in a million years would any of them pose on social media with guns, airsoft, replicas or real.

Actually yes Datun I agree with you.

All these so called feminist organisations have female CEOs and I wonder how much they truly believe in the policies imposed on them by trans activists.

We all know what happens to women who step out of line.

Telling vulnerable young girls that a woman is a feeling in a man's head, or that their sex is comprised of gender stereotypes is something that 'the ultimate feminist organisation' should be actively campaigning against.

They cannot call themselves feminists, or pro-girls whilst advocating that it means nothing.

There's always a bloody weapon in these things - huge knife on the wall above the door..

Have the Scouts made any comment about their safeguarding policies and this person's appointment? I'm equally concerned about boys being told that someone with these online sexualised and violent images is an appropriate role model for them.

Pictures of self with guns.

Pictures of self with guns .

GG are mad.

This is actually insane. Is there no safeguarding at all at Girl Guides now?! Trans status is irrelevant this individual does not seem stable enough to be in charge of young girls.

[quote OhHolyJesus]Short interview from March.

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Gosh. That really is difficult to watch. The gaslighting is off the scale.

Introduced themself as a wife, mother and grandmother, and then gets asked what advice they have to other women about women being stretched so thin. As if they'd know!

I wonder what the mother of their children, and the two grandmothers would say about it.

The wholesale acceptance that this individual can call themself a mother and grandmother and expects no pushback shows who is overwhelmingly in control.

It's bloody heartbreaking that it's the girl guides advocating for all this, too. Not some bloody private members club, somewhere. An actual organisation set up to help girls with confidence, self-esteem, a diverse skill set, so they can take their place as equals. Bentley, I believe who started the mixed sex provision, actually described the Girl Guides as "the ultimate feminist organisation".

It appears that the worst word feminist has also changed meaning to 'centering men at all times'.

On plus side this should be enormously helpful to Katie Alcock’s legal case against Girl Guiding

It’s on CrowdJustice search ‘Guiding’, there’s two (I think her solicitor changed firm) only one is open at the moment

This is what the policy of feeling able to ‘bring your whole self’ to work leads to.

You should only be bringing your professional self to work, whether paid or voluntary.

[quote OhHolyJesus]Short interview from March.

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If you watch this interview on YouTube, with the same mounting unease as I did, it's at least some reassurance to see that the overwhelming majority of the comments echo all the valid concerns raised on this and other threads.

There do appear to be a couple from people who know this individual, and their mention that this person also has an enthusiasm for cosplay doesn't do anything whatsoever to make me feel any better.

It’s the fact that the person posts these bdsm ‘mistress will punish you’ photos out there in the world - my kids are not girl guides age (I think guides are the older ones aren’t they) but I know teens that age can easily look up people they know. Of course it’s not appropriate to do so but kids do it, it’s natural. So they look up their girl guide leader and see that?

It’s like teachers, teachers can obviously be into anything they want in their free time but they’d be pretty daft if they posted on social media dressed up in bdsm gear.

Are they completely mad?

Setting the trans aspect aside no-one with such an unhealthy interest in guns should be a guide leader.

Hmm. Gentle slap on the wrist and reminder about social media use and no further action I’ll bet.

My DD’s pack folded unexpectedly a few months ago when all the leaders resigned all at once without quite saying why. I’m wondering whether all this is why. I was so sorry for my DD who loved it - as I did as a child - but I can’t quite see how I can rely any more on the organisation keeping her safe. If at head office they can’t look like a responsible child-centred feminist organisation, I don’t think anyone at the grassroots or any parents can quite trust what’s going on, no matter how good the local leaders are.

Brazening it out is the worst possible thing they could do.