Brits get rid of separate male & female awards

@Leaveitonthefloordrobe

Hear, hear! Could not agree more

If this does result in fewer women being recognised, as it surely will, it will play right into the hands of those people (mostly men) who still believe that women just aren't as talentled as men. If women were "as good" as men, they'd win the awards. They just need to try harder. Just like the massive inequality in women's sports. If women's football was as good as men's, they'd have the audiences and the obscene amounts of money that men do. It just reinforces and justifies misogyny for some.

It's a great idea, I think!

Just had a look through the past Best Group winners, the last group that won before Little Mix that had women in was Five Star in 1987.

www.nme.com/news/music/brian-may-criticises-brit-awards-frightening-choice-to-scrap-gendered-awards-3104614?fbclid=IwAR0jIBZrf4sOXa0EQKn4i3ChSK6u3IgtyLpgYcQS25TKU_GYu5m6QacOhsc

Brian May has spoken out about this and is getting the usual media treatment!

Look at when female groups have won the best group award in the past few years, cue lots of misogynistic moaning that follows. If a woman wins best act there is going to be lots of complaining along the lines of her style not being as valid or worthy as males/SS.

Many of the female acts - especially the young ones - seem to be expected to perform in their underwear. Nobody even comments on how strange this is any more, it's just assumed. When did you last see a male performer on stage in just his pants at all - let alone with nobody seeing it as mention-worthy?

I'm guessing the narrative currently goes like this: "Huh, people only rate her because of her looks and the fact that she wears next to nothing on the stage."

I'm guessing, if they didn't perform in their undies, with plain hair and no/minimal makeup, the narrative would go like this: "Huh, she doesn't even make any effort to look nice or fashionable - some serious performer she is."

Meanwhile, male singers are judged on their.... songs and voices.

Look at when female groups have won the best group award in the past few years, cue lots of misogynistic moaning that follows. If a woman wins best act there is going to be lots of complaining along the lines of her style not being as valid or worthy as males/SS.

I am the new CEO of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg has been sacked. With all of my new $billions I'm going to buy you all fabulous jewels and stuff (which you can sell if you don't like). I am also writing songs as we speak and trying out my singing voice

I saw a poster on Twitter say ‘inclusivity is exclusionary for women’ or words to that affect. I do think it’s true. Including others often seems to be at the expense of women, never men.

Unisex loos are a good example of this. Around here you have men and unisex. No womens. Where are the womens and unisex toilets?!

So you halve the number of winners.

And we all know who will lose out more. Just look at Hollywood and despite years of virtue signalling, etc. the number of black winners across the board is still low. Not to mention female directors.

Well, the Brits have clearly been remiss in their system for some years, because Sam Smith should have won the award for the worst ever Bond song. Never mind, maybe now he can win the award for being the most pretentious navel gazer. He certainly belongs in a category of his own, so come on Brits, sort this out!

MrsTerryPratchett Believe in yourself! You go girl!

Can’t they stick to biological sex for awards and let anyone be any gender they choose? Why would this not suit them?

That sounds such common sense, it's so difficult to understand why so many people struggle with it.

You are an individual person in your own right - certain basic things are baked in and unchangeable, such as your sex, race and age; but almost everything else can be designed around your own feelings, desires, preferences and ambitions - sexuality/gender identity and relationships, any religious beliefs, fashion sense, musical preferences, career - loads and loads of things.

BUT these things are of no interest to the authorities - they're largely up to you. They want to record your name, sex and date of birth - and they need an up-to-date address to contact you when necessary - but otherwise, it's up to you who you want to be. The state won't pigeonhole your life in so many ways, so why ever would you choose to do it to yourself?

I shall identify as a noble prize winner.

I don’t care which one. I just want to be able to say my pronouns are superior/godlike/betterthanyou.

I also identify as NME’s god like genius. Every year.

Get on with the worship please.

The reality is that I can't. I am tome deaf.

That doesn't matter - you should qualify for the Booker prize too.... as long as you believe you can

“They would fit the male of female award though, because their sex is either male or female. Non-binary is about gender, gender is a social construct ie made up by people to pigeon hole people into certain stereotypes. So non binary people are basically people who don't want to be pigeon holed into gender stereo types - but who does??? Which means everyone's gender is non- binary. So instead of getting rid of male and female why don't we just get rid of gender stereotypes and non binary people (everyone) will be able to just be whatever sex they are rather than having to worry about being pigoenholed by stereotypes.“

Yes that’s what I think which is why I can’t get my head round it!

Can’t they stick to biological sex for awards and let anyone be any gender they choose? Why would this not suit them?

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They would fit the male of female award though, because their sex is either male or female. Non-binary is about gender, gender is a social construct ie made up by people to pigeon hole people into certain stereotypes. So non binary people are basically people who don't want to be pigeon holed into gender stereo types - but who does??? Which means everyone's gender is non- binary”

A good, fictional example is Elle in ‘Legally Blonde”. Apparently utterly feminine, delicate, blond, and pink-wearing but with twice the tenacity, intellect and legal knowledge of her former, would-be - lawyer, male fiance.

I genuinely feel like I can sing. I belt one out in the car. The reality is that I can't. I am tome deaf. Why can't I have a Brit? For my genuinely held beliefs.